Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes

This will never work in US for two reasons:

1. removes control from local authorities - "we are supposed to decide for our citizens, not them"

2. NIMBYs will oppose the bus passing on their street - "too much noise, peoples, ..."

> NIMBYs will oppose the bus passing on their street - "too much noise, peoples, ..."

It is funny because nobody ever opposes Amazon or UPS trucks...

I think if we can get people to use a service, they won't oppose it?

I live on a greenway street in Portland (bikes are prioritized, car traffic is intentionally made difficult), but I would have no problem with a bus route down it. Having said that, I don't bike and I also don't care about Amazon trucks. I've lived in NYC, SF, BsAs, Madrid and Saigon. The performative hypocrisy of people in Portland who claim to want an equitable society and claim to care about the environment, whilst using those talking points to prevent any kind of urban growth or new housing, is shocking. The people who'd have a problem with a bus going down the street are the same ones who lobbied to turn it into a biking street and take away parking in the name of the people and the environment. It's all a lie. A thin cover for protecting their property values. AKA keeping the neighborhood white. There's no racism as safe as the racism you can explain away with progressive corporate-speak and some spandex bike tights.

> NIMBYs will oppose the bus passing on their street

Why do they get a say on buses? You don't get to veto other drivers even in front of your own house.

Once you're paying the fixed monthly cost of a car (depreciation, maintenance, insurance) it rarely makes sense to use a bus. The exception is when there's insufficient parking at the destination but most cities have already decided not to go that route and it's too late to change it.

Busses will be electric soon, silent then

I fled Portland screaming to New Orleans over a decade ago and I haven’t regretted it for one moment.

I tried NOLA for a few weeks in my 20s - loved it, got a job bussing tables at Brennans, moved into a house with some musicians, lost all $4k of my savings drinking and gambling, and called my sister for money to take a greyhound home. I really dig that town, and Portland blows, but I think it's one of the places I'd probably lose my shit in. Some places are just too easy to stay out all night in.. and have a kind of depressing spiral for a habitual drinker/gambler/sex addict. Vegas, Prague, and NOLA are the three that I can think of where I go to the dark places, go broke and get suicidal. Also, not ironically, my favorite places in the world. But I learned that I need to have a ticket out.

Thankfully, I am one of the few that did not come here with that in mind. So my sanity and financial solvency have only gradually deteriorated.