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the_clarence ◴[] No.43973667[source]
I switched from a lifetime of iPhones to an android phone last year, just because of folding phones. They are amazing and IMO the reason why Apple is going to have issues as these get cheaper (unless they release a folding phone too). Now that I have all this screen estate the current UI feels limiting often.
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permo-w ◴[] No.43973686[source]
I switched from iPhone to android a month ago and it was so awful that I just went back to using my old phone. I treat the android device as essentially a powerbank with a camera, and even that it's bad at. plug it into my PC to transfer pictures? no response
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chneu ◴[] No.43975644[source]
Smells like user error and bias.

I've swapped dozens of users from iOS to Android in the last year or so and nobody has had issues. Over the years I've helped hundreds of people migrate. Most everyone really likes the freedom to use different apps or workflows.

The only folks who ever have problems are people who need to be told how to use their devices. Choices confuse them so android is overwhelming, which is understandable. That's where iOS excels. iOS dictates how users can do things, which works for some people but also atrophies people's understanding of technology. People learn to do as they're told, not how to think about what's going on. Apple's walled garden makes people worse at technology.

Also sounds like you bought a garbage bargain android device. Idk how something can barely work as a camera/powerbank unless user error is present.

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1. permo-w ◴[] No.43980570[source]
get your head out of your own arse. it's got fuck all to do with needing to be told what to do; you should see the level of customisation I have set up on my laptop. the overriding issue here is that if you're doing things on your phone that require massive customisability then you're doing something wrong. phones are for calling, photos, music and occasionally looking something up. almost anything else you should be doing with a keyboard and mouse. a phone that you have to constantly dig through the settings and install a million utility apps to make bearable is a bad phone. a phone you have to pay a grifter to transition you to using is a bad phone

>Idk how something can barely work as a camera/powerbank unless user error is present.

I literally explained this in the comment. the device doesn't connect to my laptop when I plug it in, meaning that I can't transfer photos off it easily

your entire comment smells viciously of "oh my god! how dare he not have had a good experience with android. my poor baby android..."

if I was biased I wouldn't have bought an android in the first place

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2. chneu ◴[] No.43986889[source]
you're clearly using it wrong and blaming the device.

multiple people have explained to you that you're the issue and your response is to get angry, throw around insults, and reiterate that you're using it wrong.

you bought into a walled garden, then acting like everything outside your self-imposed garden is wrong.

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3. permo-w ◴[] No.43987229[source]
it's telling that you've not actually addressed anything I said. you're just repeating yourself and appealing to the authority of others. you've quite clearly decided that Android is your "team" and you're just going to aggressively defend it and insult anyone who threatens that, and yes, you too were throwing around insults, just because they were less explicit does not mean you get to play as if you're the adult in the room

there's a difference between liking a walled garden and preferring a phone that just works pleasantly with all the features you need straight out of the box, and the fact that you're choosing to misunderstand this shows that you're just completely unobjective. and of course you are, you've literally explained your vested interest in this. it's like trying to argue atheism to an evangelical priest

besides, if we were talking about tablets or laptops or anything that you might actually want to do work on, then a walled garden is a huge issue, a massive dealbreaker. but as far as I'm concerned you're kidding yourself if you think your phone needs a wider pool of features than a Nokia from 2007