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brador ◴[] No.43962450[source]
Lifetime for human copyright, 20 years for corporate copyright. That’s the golden zone.
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Zambyte ◴[] No.43962626[source]
Zero (0) years for corporate copyright, zero (0) years for human copyright is the golden zone in my book.
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umanwizard ◴[] No.43962681[source]
Why?
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whamlastxmas ◴[] No.43962937[source]
Because the concept of owning an idea is really gross. Copyright means I can’t write about whatever I want in my own home even if I never distribute it or no one ever sees it. I’m breaking the law by privately writing Harry Potter fanfic in my journal or whatever. Copyright is supposed to be about encouraging intangibles, and the reality is that it only massively stifles it
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flats ◴[] No.43963326[source]
I don’t believe this is true? I’m pretty sure that you’re prohibited from making money from that fan fiction, not from writing it at all. So I don’t understand the claim that copyright “massively stifles” creativity. There are of course examples of people not being able to make money on specific “ideas” because of copyright laws, but that doesn’t seem to me to be “massively stifling” creativity itself, especially given that it also protects and supports many people generating these ideas. And if we got rid of copyright law, wouldn’t we be in that exact place, where people wouldn’t be allowed to make money off of creative endeavors?

I mean, owning an idea is kinda gross, I agree. I also personally think that owning land is kinda gross. But we live in a capitalist society right now. If we allow AI companies to train LLMs on copyrighted works without paying for that access, we are choosing to reward these companies instead of the humans who created the data upon which these companies are utterly reliant for said LLMs. Sam Altman, Elon Musk, and all the other tech CEOs will benefit in place of all of the artists I love and admire.

That, to me, sucks.

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Zambyte ◴[] No.43963483[source]
> And if we got rid of copyright law, wouldn’t we be in that exact place, where people wouldn’t be allowed to make money off of creative endeavors?

This is addressed in the second article I linked.

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1. SketchySeaBeast ◴[] No.43966687[source]
Is it though? All I see is hand-waving.