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afavour ◴[] No.43929124[source]
> "Cardinal George of Chicago, of happy memory, was one of my great mentors, and he said: 'Look, until America goes into political decline, there won't be an American pope.' And his point was, if America is kind of running the world politically, culturally, economically, they don't want America running the world religiously. So, I think there's some truth to that, that we're such a superpower and so dominant, they don't wanna give us, also, control over the church."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-pope-could-it-be-american-c...

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bbor ◴[] No.43929272[source]
For what it’s worth, I was just reading that Leo wasn’t seen as “completely” American due to his many years in Peru — he’s even a citizen. Take that as you will.
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samsepi01 ◴[] No.43933011[source]
If Peru gets to claim this pope, then the US gets to claim Tesla, Einstein, etc. lol
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StopDisinfo910 ◴[] No.43934274[source]
Nobody claims the pope. This is a weird take. We are not talking about some sport celebrity.

It’s true that the man was born in the USA and was a bishop in Peru. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Peruvian catholics were happy to have a pope who lived their country.

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1. madcaptenor ◴[] No.43936271{3}[source]
The Peruvians definitely seem to be happy about it:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/08/pope-leo-xiv-p...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cewdl4e57v7o

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/for-us-pope-is-peruvi...

and, unsurprisingly, the Peruvian-Americans:

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/paterson-nj-new-pope-le...

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2. StopDisinfo910 ◴[] No.43938139[source]
> The Peruvians definitely seem to be happy about it

I don’t really see that from the articles you linked.

It’s all quotes about how the Pope is Peruvian (definitely true as he indeed has the Peruvian nationality) and how Peruvian people feel blessed in that.

Even your last article reinforces that he is a dual citizen with knowledge of both culture which obviously makes people joyful.

I have yet to see people argue if he is more American or more Peruvian apart from here.