←back to thread

606 points saikatsg | 8 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
Show context
mensetmanusman ◴[] No.43931060[source]
“ That the spirit of revolutionary change, which has long been disturbing the nations of the world, should have passed beyond the sphere of politics and made its influence felt in the cognate sphere of practical economics is not surprising.

The elements of the conflict now raging are unmistakable, in the vast expansion of industrial pursuits and the marvelous discoveries of science; in the changed relations between masters and workmen; in the enormous fortunes of some few individuals, and the utter poverty of the masses; the increased self reliance and closer mutual combination of the working classes; as also, finally, in the prevailing moral degeneracy. The momentous gravity of the state of things now obtaining fills every mind with painful apprehension; wise men are discussing it; practical men are proposing schemes; popular meetings, legislatures, and rulers of nations are all busied with it - actually there is no question which has taken deeper hold on the public mind.”

From the last Pope Leo over 100 years ago.

replies(3): >>43931099 #>>43931231 #>>43932596 #
Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe ◴[] No.43931231[source]
Neat thanks.

Btw how do you know this?! Have you memorized stuff of all the passed popes?

replies(5): >>43931293 #>>43931346 #>>43931522 #>>43931840 #>>43935147 #
mensetmanusman ◴[] No.43931293[source]
These are the types of things talked about in small groups near your local cathedral by members of groups like Opus Dei everywhere around the world. All are welcome :)
replies(3): >>43931803 #>>43932974 #>>43935050 #
dragonwriter ◴[] No.43931803[source]
I don't think Opus Dei spends a lot of time discussing Rerum Novarum, honestly.
replies(2): >>43932237 #>>43933070 #
CGMthrowaway ◴[] No.43932237[source]
What do they discuss? There is an Opus Dei church near me and I always wondered what was up
replies(2): >>43934615 #>>43936941 #
1. _a3ax ◴[] No.43934615[source]
Opus Dei is an extreme reactionary group within the church. Leo XIII was a liberal pope responsible for the social doctrine of the church (this text).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_Opus_Dei

Personal experience: when I was in high school in my country there was a teacher who was in Opus Dei. He tried to recruit students by leaving them a letter and inviting them to a "scholarship". I got such a letter, I was so excited. The school found out about that and investigated. We're a mixed-race country. The Opus Dei teacher has invited exclusively white students. He had invited top students #2 to #4 in my class by grade, but not #1, who was black.

replies(2): >>43935468 #>>43935786 #
2. mensetmanusman ◴[] No.43935468[source]
Meanwhile I mostly interacted with Opus Dei members near Harvard that were Nigerian, Spanish, and Mexican.
replies(2): >>43935534 #>>43966434 #
3. zorked ◴[] No.43935534[source]
Each country has their own racial hierarchy that may not, and usually does not, match yours.
replies(1): >>43939374 #
4. 4ggr0 ◴[] No.43935786[source]
> We're a mixed-race country

There are single-race countries?

replies(1): >>43937433 #
5. CGMthrowaway ◴[] No.43937433[source]
Depending on how you count, Egypt, Morocco, Bangladesh, North Korea...
replies(1): >>43938596 #
6. 4ggr0 ◴[] No.43938596{3}[source]
i know what you mean, although they're not single-race (i hate using this expression, omg) in a binary way. or at least only if you exclude the minorities in these countries who still make it diverse, be it in a small way.
7. mensetmanusman ◴[] No.43939374{3}[source]
This was the US.
8. adl ◴[] No.43966434[source]
Where they wealthy? That's the only thing the Opus Dei cares about.