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How encryption for Cinema Movies works

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230 points perryflynn | 2 comments | 20 Apr 25 17:52 UTC | HN request time: 0.751s | source
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john01dav ◴[20 Apr 25 22:47 UTC] No.43747099[source]▶
Even with all of this onerous encryption and DRM, it's not hard to find pirated copies of movies. It makes me think that the sacrifice in ownership rights for the theaters over their equipment isn't worth it.
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ajsnigrutin ◴[20 Apr 25 22:52 UTC] No.43747126[source]▶
Yep, and those pirated copies are DRM free, work everywhere, no HDCP and other crap, no internet connection needed, so they're "better" in that way too (not just price-wise).
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eastbound ◴[20 Apr 25 23:05 UTC] No.43747189[source]▶
Totally possible that watermark identifies cinemas and showtimes uniquely, and that pirates are due for a lifetime of prosecution. Or that studios will shut down some cinemas, until it stops.

For 15 years you let paid options progress. Then fewer people pirate, then you catch the rest. At the beginning you don’t see it putting its clamps; then suddenly you don’t find piracy anywhere.

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ajsnigrutin ◴[21 Apr 25 00:15 UTC] No.43747532[source]▶
Yes, and those paid options were one subscription that had "everything". Then paid options broke up into 5 different subscriptions, some not allowing more than 2 devices, some having ads in paid plans, some not available in your country, some only having seasons 3 and 5 of the series, some having the series you wanted to watch but remove it half way through, some give you a "buy" button for the media, but then take the movies away after a few months, etc.

And people go back to piracy, because the user experience is better.

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Mindwipe ◴[21 Apr 25 13:00 UTC] No.43751522[source]▶
> Yes, and those paid options were one subscription that had "everything".

It really didn't. It's incredible this collective delusion exists when it's not true.

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1. alabastervlog ◴[21 Apr 25 16:35 UTC] No.43753823[source]▶
It was a lot closer when they still had a streaming + disk option, but even then, they were missing lots (and lots, and lots) of stuff. I think people don't realize how many tens of thousands (maybe into the hundreds, IDK, I wouldn't be surprised) of films there are, let alone how many hours of TV content.

This is like when people talk about how everything's on the Web, when it comes to books. 1) This is only even sort-of true if by "on the Web" you mean "piracy sites have an epub/pdf of it", and 2) even then, extremely not close to true, the time from "I'm going to deep-dive this topic" to "... and now I need to go to the library, and possibly a specific library, maybe on another continent" is often not long at all.

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2. baud147258 ◴[22 Apr 25 14:48 UTC] No.43762876[source]▶
> "I'm going to deep-dive this topic" to "... and now I need to go to the library, and possibly a specific library, maybe on another continent"

I remember an history professor saying that for a subject he was working on he had to borrow a book from the library of Congress (through the library of his university), where the only publicly available copy in the US was. Of course it was an academic book, so it's not exactly a common situation.