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fxtentacle ◴[] No.43749353[source]
To me, it increasingly seems like the US lacks cultural autonomy.

US companies are A-OK with censoring movies and games to gain access to the Chinese market, for example remember when Blizzard banned a US player in an US tournament to please Chinese censors? But in the other direction, it seems Chinese companies aren't willing to "return the favor" and modify their products to account for American sensibilities when they export to the US. Perpetual surveillance and only little property rights protection is how everyday life in China works, so Chinese consumers won't be bothered by this. It only bothers US consumers, who are used to more privacy and solid property rights.

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stavros ◴[] No.43749595[source]
> It only bothers US consumers, who are used to more privacy and solid property rights.

Which US are you talking about? The one I know is a capitalist free-for-all, where the word "regulation" is anathema. The vast majority of Us-based products and services spy on the consumer to make an extra penny, and nobody cares.

It really baffles me to hear someone say that the US isn't under perpetual surveillance, when the NSA literally piped all phonecalls to their servers twenty years ago, before they realized they can just make companies give them all the data.

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1. conductr ◴[] No.43750200[source]
Which US consumer are they talking about? The vast majority of consumers don't give a damn about their complete lack of privacy. They don't act like they care at all when a corporation leaks their most sensitive data, their own government acts unconstitutionally, and so on. Practically nobody is bothered by any of it.