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    354 points qingcharles | 11 comments | | HN request time: 0.894s | source | bottom
    1. fxtentacle ◴[] No.43749353[source]
    To me, it increasingly seems like the US lacks cultural autonomy.

    US companies are A-OK with censoring movies and games to gain access to the Chinese market, for example remember when Blizzard banned a US player in an US tournament to please Chinese censors? But in the other direction, it seems Chinese companies aren't willing to "return the favor" and modify their products to account for American sensibilities when they export to the US. Perpetual surveillance and only little property rights protection is how everyday life in China works, so Chinese consumers won't be bothered by this. It only bothers US consumers, who are used to more privacy and solid property rights.

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    2. mcintyre1994 ◴[] No.43749455[source]
    Isn’t the solution to this to just regulate for American sensibilities in the US market? I don’t think it’s true that US companies respect privacy, but if it is then you can regulate for that and the Chinese companies will have to do the same in the US market. They’re not going to “return the favour” if it’s not regulated for and their products do fine in the market without.
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    3. stavros ◴[] No.43749595[source]
    > It only bothers US consumers, who are used to more privacy and solid property rights.

    Which US are you talking about? The one I know is a capitalist free-for-all, where the word "regulation" is anathema. The vast majority of Us-based products and services spy on the consumer to make an extra penny, and nobody cares.

    It really baffles me to hear someone say that the US isn't under perpetual surveillance, when the NSA literally piped all phonecalls to their servers twenty years ago, before they realized they can just make companies give them all the data.

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    4. conductr ◴[] No.43750200[source]
    Which US consumer are they talking about? The vast majority of consumers don't give a damn about their complete lack of privacy. They don't act like they care at all when a corporation leaks their most sensitive data, their own government acts unconstitutionally, and so on. Practically nobody is bothered by any of it.
    5. fxtentacle ◴[] No.43750400[source]
    Well it certainly strongly bothered the US consumer who made that video.
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    6. stavros ◴[] No.43750733{3}[source]
    Well if it bothers enough people, there will be regulation against it.
    7. LadyCailin ◴[] No.43751163[source]
    Yes, but regulations cost companies money, and the US isn’t a real country of the people by the people, it’s three corporations in a trenchcoat.
    8. queenkjuul ◴[] No.43752485[source]
    This is very funny
    9. blackhaj7 ◴[] No.43753485[source]
    US consumer protections are just absolutely awful and companies know they can do what they want
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    10. blackhaj7 ◴[] No.43753497[source]
    I am guessing this particular scenario is the same in the UK but I at least have a hope they will regulate it at some point
    11. 1oooqooq ◴[] No.43756830[source]
    "just stop being poor and buy the quality product without tracking"