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lupka ◴[] No.43718153[source]
Happy to see this and hopefully there are some changes. Right now I'm dealing with a crazy Adsense issue and there is no recourse, no customer support and no alternative.
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whoknowsidont ◴[] No.43718586[source]
There is no shortage of other ad platforms. Breaking up Google isn't going to solve your specific issue lol
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azemetre ◴[] No.43718857[source]
No but it would stop a single company from accumulating so much power.

How you can argue such things are democratic are beyond me. There is nothing democratic about trillion dollar corporations that can ruin your business for refusing to play their game.

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whoknowsidont ◴[] No.43719156[source]
How can Google ruin your business?
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afavour ◴[] No.43719224[source]
I've seen countless examples, e.g. a business that depends on online advertising gets its account suspended for incorrect reasons and there is literally no-one to reach at Google to get unsuspended.
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1. whoknowsidont ◴[] No.43719304[source]
Do you have a documented example of this?
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2. nickff ◴[] No.43719354[source]
Not parent, but there are many examples of this; they’re often (but not always) unsympathetic cases due to the business model of the business which has been destroyed.
3. lupka ◴[] No.43719507[source]
This is happening to me right now. I have run a site for 14 years that gets most of its traffic during the current two week stretch (it's related to NBA playoffs).

All of a sudden, Adsense revenue has gone to basically zero. $90 of earnings from Sunday has even disappeared.

There is no way to contact a real person at Google. You can just post in their dumb little forum and someone with no authority who doesn't even work there will reply to you with the same pointless info from their FAQ.

If things go the way they have been, it seems like roughly $2k in revenue that's been pretty consistent for the last decade is going to be basically zero this year and there's nothing I can do about it.

Thankfully, this is just a side project and I'll be fine, but its not hard to see how they could screw someone over who relied on it.

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4. whoknowsidont ◴[] No.43722294[source]
You could just go to a different ad network? At that amount of money you're not on the ad exchange.

I don't see how this is ruining your business. A vendor is not playing well with you, just go to another one?

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5. lupka ◴[] No.43722441{3}[source]
The key factor is the timing. During the primary week where this product generates income, Google completely screwed me over with no warning and no answers about what's going on. I am of course looking into alternatives, but that takes time, and 3 days from now it'll be too late.
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6. whoknowsidont ◴[] No.43723308{4}[source]
You have no contract with Google though. You're literally siphoning on what is a really low-barrier, dare I say free service.

They didn't screw you over. You chose to use them. You didn't pay them, they're paying you.

If you don't like that arrangement, feel free to join a partner agency that can buy and sell ads for you on the ad exchange or go to a different ad network.

Then, if they do something you don't like, you actually have very real power to compel them to do something.

Remember, you get what you pay for.

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7. lupka ◴[] No.43724432{5}[source]
Your contention is that someone can't screw you over unless you're paying them?