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googlryas ◴[] No.43656769[source]
I'd like to see examples of actual posts that were taken down, rather than talk of the quantity, or who filed the reports.
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mef51 ◴[] No.43656909[source]
The HRW report[1] goes into details, at least on the 1050 takedowns they documented

> A Human Rights Watch (HRW) report investigating Meta’s moderation of pro-Palestine content post-October 7th found that, of 1,050 posts HRW documented as taken-down or suppressed on Facebook or Instagram, 1,049 involved peaceful content in support of Palestine, while just one post was content in support of Israel."

[1] https://www.hrw.org/report/2023/12/21/metas-broken-promises/...

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breppp ◴[] No.43657980[source]
HRW is a "complicated" organization. It took money from Saudis in return for not advocating for LGBT rights in the middle east [1]. It agreed to take money from the Qatari government, a government that also supports Hamas [2][3] and is involved in corruption cases and buying of politicians all over the world.

[1] https://theintercept.com/2020/03/02/human-rights-watch-took-...

[2] https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/1700763578-human-...

[3] https://www.memri.org/reports/raven-project-leaks-alleged-qa...

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someotherperson ◴[] No.43659019[source]
This feels like a dog whistle rather than providing something substantive.

The Israeli government also helped facilitate Qatar's support for Hamas[0], what's your point here?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas#Isra...

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breppp ◴[] No.43662586[source]
The Israeli government allowed transfer of Qatari money to Hamas as a mean to buy quiet, stemmed from the belief Hamas is a rational organization that strives to improve Palestinian life through its government of the Gaza Strip, an awful mistake.

Qatar however is a supporter of the islamist Muslim Brotherhood ideology behind Hamas, financier and a host for most of its leadership.

Furthermore involved in other terror financing in the region such as the Taliban, IRGC and Al-Qaeda [1][2].

My point here is the HRW has shown before to be corrupted and flexible with their ethics in relation to the middle east, and there is evidence it took money from Qatar, a country deeply involved in this conflict and in the past used bribery in corruption to influence western politics [3]

[1] https://thearabweekly.com/ahmadinejad-reveals-qatar-paid-ran...

[2] https://www.iar-gwu.org/print-archive/an-analysis-of-qatari-...

[3] https://www.politico.eu/article/european-parliament-qatargat...

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someotherperson[dead post] ◴[] No.43669397[source]
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1. breppp ◴[] No.43670503[source]
So in your opinion Israel has planned on having Hamas massacre its citizens on this scale?

The approach over the last decade or so was to keep that border quiet. Usually through economic means, the belief was the naive capitalist notion that lack of money creates evil (crime, war, etc)

Contrary to the popular belief, Israel as evident in the multiple operations l/wars over a decade, did not want to capture the strip. It was obvious that fighting an enemy entrenched in tunnels/hospitals/schools will lead to mass civilian death and IDF soldiers (overstated though). However, in hindsight this also made things worse once that was made inevitable.

You can see it in the Qatar money, agreeing to let dual-use materials that had been used to build tunnels and to allow gazans workers to work in Israel, as recent as just before October 7.

Regarding whether Israeli officials pleaded for that money, that is not an accurate representation, you can read about it here [1]. The reasons include US pressure and cutting funds from the PA to Hamas, and wanting to keep the quiet.

It is also stated they wanted to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state through counterweighting Hamas and the PA but I think this is a later exercise. This deal was highly unpopular in Israel and was regarded as what it is, protection money

Also, cult, really? Are you always this offensive or only with regard to this topic?

[1] https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/11/middleeast/qatar-hamas-fu...

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2. someotherperson ◴[] No.43674546[source]
It seems like trolls really enjoy misquoting me. I never said that, perhaps one of your colleagues here said that. You claimed that a human rights agency taking donations from Qatar makes them untrustworthy, but Israeli politicians on their knees literally begging Qatar[0] to finance their biggest domestic enemy somehow makes Israelis noble.

> Also, cult, really?

Considering your arguments will boil down to: UN is wrong, all human rights groups are wrong, all health agencies are wrong, the people living in Gaza et. al. are wrong, all of the media is wrong, all of Israel's neighbours are wrong, and that the only one who is right is the hyper-corrupt genocidal Israeli cabinet, then yes it's either a lack of knowledge or being part of a cult.

[0] Look, an actual Israeli source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-top-general-visit...