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nadermx ◴[11 Apr 25 17:12 UTC] No.43656145[source]▶
Speaking of WordPress, hows the entire WordPress debacle going with Matt Mullenweg?
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throwawaymatt ◴[11 Apr 25 18:01 UTC] No.43656607[source]▶
They're still battling out in court, with a timeline that extends into 2027. Meanwhile: (very quick summary) Matt's pulled his developers off the project, and the release schedule has slowed. Some commercial vendors have increased their support, while others have pulled back. Meanwhile the ecosystem of devs and agencies basically shrugged it off. If we need to get rid of Matt we will (with big vendor support), no big deal.
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Mystery-Machine ◴[11 Apr 25 18:50 UTC] No.43657120[source]▶
I believe it is actually Pretty Big Deal™.

No big deal on splitting the community in half? Matt will not go and you will have half the people supporting him, half forking the project. Actually less than half on each side, when you count in the people that will completely leave the ecosystem...

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throwawaymatt ◴[11 Apr 25 19:32 UTC] No.43657590[source]▶
Splitting the community in half? Nah. If Matt needs to go, the community who is more interested in just making money (we're not "post economic" like Matt) will move aggressively to cut him out like cancer.

Sure he controls a scary amount of the ecosystem NOW, but we've seen big vendors express interest in hosting repositories, and major plugin vendors move quickly to secure their distribution and update models.

My tiny agency has already mitigated many risks and shifted our support towards developers who see a future PostMatt™

We'll be fine because WordPress belongs to us, not Matt.

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1. Implicated ◴[11 Apr 25 19:55 UTC] No.43657844[source]▶
Copium. Wordpress is dead. Argue all you want. 5 years from now the trajectory of installs/users/commercial opportunity will show that the last year was more than enough to incentivize/motivate the current and potential users to reach for something else. I say this as someone who makes my primary income managing a very large WP/WC shop.

Sure, WP isn't going away overnight. But it's dead in the water at this point. Literally like a dead whale, still going to support an ecosystem for some period of time. Though, it's peak is behind us and the unwinding was accelerated immeasurably.

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2. webspinner ◴[11 Apr 25 20:11 UTC] No.43658000[source]▶
I love how you used the phrase "Wordpress is dead," and not the really trendy term everyone has been throwing around since January of last year.
3. fragmede ◴[11 Apr 25 20:36 UTC] No.43658248[source]▶
WordPress is so dead. Vibecoding a page using next.js and using something like sanity so they can make their own changes gets clients so much more for less than WordPress ever did.