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1210 points jbegley | 11 comments | 11 Apr 25 16:24 UTC | HN request time: 0.418s | source | bottom
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mjevans ◴[11 Apr 25 18:31 UTC] No.43656889[source]▶
I think my country (USA) would be healthier if a common sense viewpoint was selected and held.

Conflicts are always terrible, and the Eurasia / Africa region countries are particularly brutal.

Every citizen of every country has a human right (in a civilized civilization / society) to live a life that does not involve violence. A life where they are not worried about RPGs, bombings, (etc,) or military invasions.

Some sources of conflict involve places which various (different) religions hold as sacred / holy. Those sites should become UN world heritage locations and be managed by the UN in ways that only allow non-military peaceful access for any who want to visit.

With respect to Gaza my personal opinion remains unchanged. Both an innocent civilian people who suffer, and a terrorist government, remain in that region. The civilians should be evacuated. The terrorists who remain after (or whom are caught and found guilty in a trial) should be purged. The country should then be cleaned up, rebuilt, and returned to the innocent people along with a training-wheels UN supported government that brings stability, peace, and prevents a resurgence of hate and terrorism. In a few generations the country can grow more stable and graduate from the guided government structure.

That would be not just a two state solution, but a two states and global peace sites solution.

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1. yoda97 ◴[11 Apr 25 18:52 UTC] No.43657156[source]▶
A two state solution is never possible when one state keeps expanding with impunity, and every time the second state resists it is called a terrorist state. My country resisted colonization in the mid 20th century and the resistance efforts were called terrorism by everyone, nobody calls them terrorists now.
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2. HappyPanacea ◴[11 Apr 25 19:00 UTC] No.43657256[source]▶
What country are you from? It is entirely possible they are still terrorists you just decided as society to ignore it.
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3. yoda97 ◴[11 Apr 25 19:16 UTC] No.43657415[source]▶
The ICC has never issued any arrest warrants for our elected/appointed government officials if that's what you are asking.
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6. yoda97 ◴[11 Apr 25 20:00 UTC] No.43657895{4}[source]▶
It's best we stop here, this conversation will go nowhere.
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7. HappyPanacea ◴[11 Apr 25 20:10 UTC] No.43657992{5}[source]▶
ICC don't have retroactive jurisdiction from quick google so your point still doesn't make sense.
8. skyyler ◴[11 Apr 25 20:24 UTC] No.43658129{5}[source]▶
One of the most difficult things you can do in a discussion like this.

But also, one of the most important.

9. YZF ◴[12 Apr 25 05:38 UTC] No.43661640[source]▶
Israel has not expanded. It has shrunk. It returned Sinai to Egypt. It returned Gaza to the Palestinians. It gave control of west bank cities to the Palestinian Authority after allowing it's bitter enemy leadership (the PLO and Arafat) to return to the West Bank.

I'm reading Ireland between the lines. There is zero similarity.

A two state solution is not possible because most Palestinians do not want that solution. They want Israel erased and Jews "erased" from the middle east. Offers were already on the table and refused and the Oslo peace process was killed by Hamas violence.

10. sfx77 ◴[12 Apr 25 13:17 UTC] No.43664117{3}[source]▶
They've also not targeted your country either like they did Israel. Even Hungary has recognized their strange obsession with Israel recently. The ICC is part of the U.N. and have passed more resolutions against Israel, then the rest of the world combined. It's pure insanity. Especially when comparing a democracy in the Middle East, a place where every other country is either authoritarian, totalitarian, run by terrorists, or dictators. Bashar-Al-Assad has killed over 700,000 people, yet somehow Israel is worse. It's pure insanity.
11. sfx77 ◴[12 Apr 25 15:46 UTC] No.43665391[source]▶
Correction a two state solution is never possible when your neighbors are a terrorist organization backed by Iran, who coordinates with other terrorist organization who are also funded by Iran. This word play of calling Israel will not work. Unfortunately not everything is relative and words have actual meanings. When an organizations policy is to kidnap, torture, rape, and murder civilians with impunity, that is a terror organization, unlike the defense force of a democracy.