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shaky-carrousel ◴[] No.43654619[source]
What a great idea, scaring companies probing bluesky. That surely won't backfire and will cement bluesky as a Xitter alternative.
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teraflop ◴[] No.43654704[source]
Maybe, just maybe, the platforms that we use to engage socially with other human beings don't also have to be organized around engaging commercially with brands.
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1. llm_nerd ◴[] No.43656617[source]
Then don't follow or engage with their content? You understand that's your option, right?

I actually enjoy Bsky as a replacement for Twitter mostly to keep on top of news (tech and otherwise, the tech often coming from the source), along with a small selection of high profile figures. So I follow those sources and venues.

It is absolutely pathetic that a small mob attacked Adobe -- primarily a super aggressive anti-AI contingent that runs around like a sad torch mob on bsky -- and I hope Adobe return to the platform. It would be nice for people like me, who chose to follow these brands, to see the news from Adobe, OpenAI, Microsoft, etc, and my choice shouldn't be limited by those people.

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2. scheeseman486 ◴[] No.43659440[source]
If they can't take the heat from their customers, that's their problem.

And you can always subscribe to Adobe's email list.

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3. llm_nerd ◴[] No.43659653[source]
This is such an amazingly toxic, selfish attitude that you have. Is this how you really live your life?

It wasn't "their customers" that brigaded. It is the clowns who have decided that Bluesky is their own. They are the ones that will keep it from hitting mainstream, and hopefully the service crushes their obnoxious activism.

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4. Alupis ◴[] No.43660140[source]
I think we can safely assume 99% of the outraged posters have never once owned a legal copy of, nor subscribed to Adobe products.

Outrage is a performance these days.

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5. cmrdporcupine ◴[] No.43660475[source]
If you don't own the platform, you don't get to control the reception.

Post on an open forum, get open forum results.

They could host a web page. That's a thing still. What's that? They want an audience? A megaphone into someone else's auditorium?

There's a cost to that.

6. rchaud ◴[] No.43660696{3}[source]
Contrarian takes without empirical evidence remain a rare occurrence however.
7. scheeseman486 ◴[] No.43660795{3}[source]
Who cares if someone is toxic towards Adobe? It's a corporate brand, people should be allowed to voice what the feel about a fucking brand.

Adobe could have sincerely communicated while blocking any abusive stuff or if they couldn't be arsed, turned off comments. They have PR people to handle this stuff, or at least they did until it was probably left up to some underpain intern who doesn't give a shit.

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8. scheeseman486 ◴[] No.43660854{3}[source]
Just about everyone I know who works in graphic design doesn't have a high opinion of Adobe. Though in a sense you're right, many don't own a legal copy of Adobe products.

But that's because they've chosen something else for their personal use and only make Adobe part of their workflow when required to by their workplace.

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9. Alupis ◴[] No.43660912{4}[source]
Every single graphics professional I've worked with (many) have owned their own copy of Creative Suite (or subscribed). It's akin to their "IDE", and they really get to know it inside-and-out. It would be difficult to become skilled in the various Creative Suite products if one didn't spend a lot of time (their own and employers) in it.

The point I was raising here specifically was the people who are feigning outrage to Adobe's benign Bluesky post are unlikely to be Adobe customers, and unlikely even creative professionals at all.

Outrage and hate is a sport to these people.

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10. kaibee ◴[] No.43661343{3}[source]
> It wasn't "their customers" that brigaded.

This is a silly idea. Who else would care enough or know about it?

11. scheeseman486 ◴[] No.43662633{5}[source]
Or they do use their products and they don't like them or the company's policies. Why is this so hard for you to believe? Given a lack of hard evidence either way other than our own anecdotes, you're essentially falling into conspiracy theorizing, accusing people of being liars based on precisely fuck-all. Even going so far as to suggest it's organized, a "sport".

It's delusional.

12. llm_nerd ◴[] No.43666639{4}[source]
Toxicity and brigading is the problem. Moral toxicity and brigading, where people think they are doing some good, is even worse.

I'm not crying crocodile tears for Adobe. They shouldn't have deleted their post, and ultimately they just shrugged and decided that bsky didn't matter yet and just abandoned it for now.

Which serves no one, but it's what you get when a small number of twats who think they're the bully squad ruin a platform.

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13. scheeseman486 ◴[] No.43667656{5}[source]
Yeah. Against people.

Corporations and brands aren't people.