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amelius ◴[] No.43619760[source]
I don't understand people who want to defend Apple in this case. UK is a functioning democracy, and why would you want to put a (foreign) company above that? If you want change, you know the route ...
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rodwyersoftware ◴[] No.43619790[source]
The UK is not a functioning democracy, at all.
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ohgr ◴[] No.43619799[source]
Well it is because the judiciary smacked the secrecy side of it down pretty hard to make sure that it was done in public. That's a pretty strong indicator of a functioning democracy.
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dijksterhuis ◴[] No.43619893[source]
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/dec/analysis-new-home-office...

> The two-year study by the Home Office makes very clear that there are no grounds for asserting that Muslim or Pakistani-heritage men are disproportionately engaged in such crimes, and, citing our research, it confirmed the unreliability of the Quilliam claim.

white males end up as defendants in CSE cases more often than any other ethnic group

https://www.logicallyfacts.com/en/fact-check/no-pakistani-me...

> while white men make up 83 percent of the population, they accounted for 88 percent of the defendants in child sexual abuse cases.

see page 38 https://www.csacentre.org.uk/app/uploads/2024/02/Trends-in-O...

oh you edited your post to add more anti-muslim rhetoric.

let’s dive into the detail a little

> A pre-sentence report will normally be considered necessary if the offender belongs to one (or more) of the following cohorts:

> at risk of first custodial sentence and/or at risk of a custodial sentence of 2 years or less (after taking into account any reduction for guilty plea)

> a young adult (typically 18-25 years)

> female

> from an ethnic minority, cultural minority, and/or faith minority community

> pregnant or post-natal

> sole or primary carer for dependent relatives

> Or if the court considers that one or more of the following may apply to the offender:

> has disclosed they are transgender

> has or may have any addiction issues

> has or may have a serious chronic medical condition or physical disability, or mental ill health, learning disabilities (including developmental disorders and neurodiverse conditions) or brain injury/damage

> the court considers that the offender is, or there is a risk that they may have been, a victim of:

> domestic abuse, physical or sexual abuse, violent or threatening behaviour, coercive or controlling behaviour, economic, psychological, emotional or any other abuse

> modern slavery or trafficking, or coercion, grooming, intimidation or exploitation.

> This is a non-exhaustive list and a PSR can still be necessary if the individual does not fall into one of these cohorts.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/overarching-guides/magi...

1) i dont see the word “muslim” mentioned anywhere

2) i see about 10 other societal groups listed that have nothing to do with religion

but sure, let’s keep blaming the muslims for everything, that sounds like a healthy approach to life.

second edit because fuck it.

i grew up in an affluent part of the country, a quiet and mostly white countryside town. went to posh schools. most of my first 20 years i didnt spend much time around people of other ethnicities.

i get it man. i get that you might be afraid of losing your “identity”. or maybe you’re afraid of the big scary bogeymen on the news.

but you don’t have to be afraid. you dont have to be afraid of the bogeymen. the bogeymen are mostly made up stories. you don’t have to be afraid of change. life becomes a hell of a lot more fulfilling without fear.

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