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    duxup ◴[] No.43581973[source]
    It feels like every pick of this administration is just someone who has a motivation for corruption.
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    1. hn_throwaway_99 ◴[] No.43583574[source]
    It's really shocking to me how quickly and transparently we've hit banana republic levels of corruption, and anyone with any smidgen of power to do anything about it has just rolled over - Profiles in Cowardice describes all of the remaining Republicans in Congress to me (all the courageous ones were either primaried or retired).

    The examples are all just so disgustingly blatant now, like Eric Adams in NYC, or the founder of Nikola paying millions in bribes (err, sorry, "campaign donations") to get a pardon.

    Our republic may survive the current administration (not sure, probably give it less than a 50% chance these days), but the facade of our righteousness is gone forever. Trump won the election fair and square, and both the electoral college and the popular vote. People knew exactly what they were getting, and they wanted this.

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    2. belter ◴[] No.43583670[source]
    You will see next, the removal of the Fed chairman. It is illegal but the Administration will say fight it off in the courts.

    The Fed chairman is going to make a speech in 10 min, and the US President is currently live on his social platform accusing him of playing Politics. You will then achieve the same level of governance as Türkiye.

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    3. spencerflem ◴[] No.43583705[source]
    I agree with you- other than that they wanted Trump. In 2024, both candidates were historically unpopular, and polling continues to show that both parties approval ratings are at an all time low.

    My read is the election was a rejection of globalist neoliberal capitalism and Trump was the closest choice to that. If the democrats had run someone who was even willing to lie about making changes for regular people they would have won easily.

    4. russdill ◴[] No.43583901[source]
    What's interesting with Eric Adams is that his charges were dismissed with prejudice by the judge handling the case specifically because the Trump admin made clear statements that they would use the prosecution as a stick to try and get him to do what they want.
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    5. blibble ◴[] No.43583914[source]
    > People knew exactly what they were getting, and they wanted this.

    once the world was willing to forgive, but twice is a pattern that can't be ignored

    the 97% of the rest of the world now needs to de-risk itself from the US and its businesses

    longer term, the self-inflicted loss of economic, military and cultural domination will hopefully result in the US electorate realising that "US exceptionalism" was only ever a set of lucky circumstances, which are unlikely to be repeated

    at which point the forced humility should result in a return to long-term stability

    the worse outcome is the US attempts to hang onto its dying empire with warfare, and it appears we're seeing the groundwork being laid for this already (canada, greenland, panama, ...)

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    6. tsunamifury ◴[] No.43584013[source]
    This is not easily done. The withdrawal will be extreme and take a great deal of time.

    I think most will not have the will once they steel the cost. I know this forum loves to prognosticate but the right thing is what one must do to survive.

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    7. blibble ◴[] No.43584039{3}[source]
    > I think most will not have the will once they steel the cost.

    if you're a government it's quite easy to "encourage" it to occur

    example: "US cloud provider revenue levy", starting at 0%, increasing 1% each month until 40%

    the aim being to add a large risk premium to all purchases of US cloud services, encouraging companies to switch to domestic suppliers

    the EU is already publicly talking about retaliating in this manner

    8. ikiris ◴[] No.43584085{3}[source]
    This is why a tariff trade war is extremely dangerous right now. It explicitly incentivizes this further as an intentional goal.
    9. throwaway5752 ◴[] No.43584098[source]
    I see you as having been downvoted. I have no idea why - it is on topic, and correct. Further, it is not hard to deduce why he will remove Powell, or the impact on America vis a vis the US Dollar. The "Mar a Lago" accord spells this out, with all its faulty logic.

    They have an agenda that is based on errors, ignorance, and being manipulated by parties that are adversaries to America and democracy. Soon this will be irrecoverable within this generation, at least.

    People have the mistaken belief that things are bad right now. They can get drastically worse.

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    10. dsajames ◴[] No.43584140[source]
    You clearly have enver spent time in Honduras
    11. hn_throwaway_99 ◴[] No.43584265{3}[source]
    I agree with your first paragraph, not so much the second.

    I think the rest of the world is just dealing with the reality that the US is now an unreliable partner and cannot be trusted. In the face of that, yes, I agree that most of them won't dump the US immediately with big fanfare, but they will start to decouple in the background where it matters - making trade deals that exclude the US, building real incentives for the intelligentsia to stay away from the US (though the US is already doing a fairly decent job of that themselves), taking more responsibility for their own defense, etc.

    I mean, look what happened to Vietnam and Israel. They capitulated in the face of the tariff threat and removed their tariffs on US imports, and they still got hit with some of the highest (or, it Vietnam's case, the highest) tariff rates. Europe has already realized (and this is a good thing and a long time coming IMO) that they need to rebuild their defense capacity because they can't depend on the US.

    So no, I don't believe it will happen immediately, but I also believe that over the longer term (5-10-15 years) that decoupling from the US is inevitable solely because not doing that will be more difficult for other countries.

    12. globnomulous ◴[] No.43584320[source]
    Thanks for pointing this out. I dimly registered that there was a strangeness about the dismissal of charges, but I had no idea this was the reasoning:

    > "Everything here smacks of a bargain: dismissal of the Indictment in exchange for immigration policy concessions," he said.

    > His decision to drop the case permanently, Judge Ho said, ensured that the administration could not use the indictment as "leverage" over Adams or the city of New York.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74nl3120k4o

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    13. belter ◴[] No.43584340{3}[source]
    The Fed charmain just said inflation will pick up. When the economy starts to tank Trump will need somebody to blame, and will blame the high interest rates. The Fed might even have the need to raise rates.

    [1] "...The relevant legislation holds that a member of the Federal Reserve board may be “removed for cause by the president”. But in this context, courts have interpreted “for cause” to refer to misconduct or impropriety. The president cannot remove the members of the board purely for policy or political reasons.

    However, Trump could attempt to demote Powell from chair to an ordinary member of the Federal Reserve, and put another candidate in charge. Here, there is less of a legal precedent. Previous presidents have always assumed they did not have the power to do this..."

    [1] https://theconversation.com/trump-has-threatened-to-fire-the...

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    14. throwaway5752 ◴[] No.43584390{4}[source]
    The inflation is a desired and intended side effect of the tariffs, the statement by Powell is part of a chess match and his removal will be part of an intended outcome.

    Trump will try to replace Powell extra-constitutionally and at this point, I suspect he may succeed. It will be close to the lights going out at that point.

    15. tombert ◴[] No.43584625{3}[source]
    I really hope that NYC is smart enough to properly oust this corrupt asshole.

    I live in NYC, and I have triple-checked to make sure that I will be able to vote in the primary to try and avoid him getting the democrat nomination, and this is the first time in my life that I've genuinely considered voting Republican if he does manage to get the nomination.

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    16. russdill ◴[] No.43586026{4}[source]
    Good news! He's probably going to be running as an independent. Wait, I'm checking my notes again, it doesn't appear to be good news at all. Damn, sorry man.