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csdvrx ◴[] No.43536866[source]
The main complain of the author seems to be that linux use systemd.

In my experience, systemd is far better and more reliable than anything else, especially if you need complex logic (ex: when this and that happen, start doing this, except when such and such are present)

Most of the problems I've seen come from trying to duplicate systemd functions: in the author example, why bother with rsyslog or network-manager?

I have also seen many people refusing to learn modern tools, instead trying to make it work with the tools they know, by disabling what works better, often with poor results.

It's like trying to keep using ifconfig and route instead of ip: you can make it work, but for say managing multiple ip on the same interface forces you to go with eth0:0 eth0:1 etc (and let's not even talk about network namespaces).

I like the various BSD and distributions like postmarket OS, but I wish they had access to modern tools instead of having to "roll my own" with scripts or make do with what they depend on

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yjftsjthsd-h ◴[] No.43537268[source]
> I like the various BSD and distributions like postmarket OS, but I wish they had access to modern tools instead of having to "roll my own" with scripts or make do with what they depend on

It sounds like you wish they used systemd. "Modern" is rarely a good description, and at 15 years old I don't think systemd qualifies as such anyways.

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csdvrx ◴[] No.43537533[source]
> It sounds like you wish they used systemd

I do.

> "Modern" is rarely a good description

Then call it reliable and dependable.

Modern doesn't always win for me: I prefer vim to neovim, or bash to zsh. Having a solid set of features and a good integration does.

If you are curious, see https://marcelofern.com/posts/linux/goodbye_zsh/index.html which mirrors my reasons to prefer bash

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1. technothrasher ◴[] No.43541353[source]
> Modern doesn't always win for me: I prefer [...] bash to zsh

Bash and zsh are approximately to same age. I think bash is older by only a few months.

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2. wyclif ◴[] No.43542469[source]
Yes, I think this confuses modern Linux users because bash is the default on most Linux server and desktop installs. So they end up thinking zsh is "new" because it's an additional package.