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268 points tech234a | 8 comments | 29 Mar 25 04:13 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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janwillemb ◴[29 Mar 25 06:38 UTC] No.43513321[source]▶
It is very hard to use Android without a Google account. Most people accept that. They must have learnt from that.
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1. qrobit ◴[29 Mar 25 06:46 UTC] No.43513348[source]▶
Is it? I use Android without Google account (with services though). No app forces account on me, there's always option to sign in through other platform or directly via email.
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2. bakugo ◴[29 Mar 25 06:52 UTC] No.43513377[source]▶
> No app forces account on me

What apps? You can't use Google Play to download apps without an account.

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3. jakeogh ◴[29 Mar 25 07:00 UTC] No.43513409[source]▶
No google acct here, I use fdroid and the Aurora store. I have no doubt though that google is working on killing the Aurora store.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41773781

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4. potemkinhr ◴[29 Mar 25 09:22 UTC] No.43514032{3}[source]▶
Do banking apps work normally if downloaded from the aurora store? I'd very much like to fully degoogle my next phone when I get to replacing it, and it's the last stumbling stone
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5. aboringusername ◴[29 Mar 25 09:30 UTC] No.43514070{4}[source]▶
Absolutely. You should check out the list [1] to see what banking apps are verified working with GrapheneOS. It's worth noting if your banking app isn't on this list it does not mean it will not work.

[1]: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

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6. Cyphase ◴[29 Mar 25 09:56 UTC] No.43514179{4}[source]▶
I believe there are reasons this isn't a solution for everybody, but I just use the mobile website. Works for me, and probably a lot of people. I'd rather not have the app on my phone anyway.
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7. magicalhippo ◴[29 Mar 25 13:01 UTC] No.43515194{5}[source]▶
I checked a couple of reports relevant to me[1][2], and both explicitly mentions Play was installed and links to the Play store for the app.

Can one still assume one can install and operate those apps without Google Play?

[1]: https://github.com/PrivSec-dev/banking-apps-compat-report/is...

[2]: https://github.com/PrivSec-dev/banking-apps-compat-report/is...

8. nosioptar ◴[29 Mar 25 21:21 UTC] No.43518841{5}[source]▶
I'm the same. If my bank ever requires me to install an app, I'll change banks.