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Cross-Platform P2P Wi-Fi: How the EU Killed AWDL

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223 points stusmall | 6 comments | 28 Mar 25 13:13 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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joshstrange ◴[28 Mar 25 15:01 UTC] No.43506331[source]▶
So it's lightning all over again? Lightning was better than micro-usb, then USB-C came out and was even better and people get pissy at Apple for creating something better than the standard (and donating some of that back to the standard).

I know this will not be popular here but I really do not like the EU's most recent round of "no, you have to open up this feature".

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1. meibo ◴[28 Mar 25 15:03 UTC] No.43506363[source]▶
...what use is "donating" back to the standard if you don't adopt the standard, practically preventing its adoption through your position in the market?
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2. jeffhuys ◴[28 Mar 25 15:08 UTC] No.43506417[source]▶
It wasn't really prevented, though, right? Apple was late to the game, yes, but that by definition means that its adoption was already well on its way; most of my non-Apple acquaintances were mocking me for having a non-usb-c phone (such an important issue!)...
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3. lxgr ◴[28 Mar 25 15:36 UTC] No.43506747[source]▶
> mocking me for having a non-usb-c phone (such an important issue!)...

It really isn't that irrelevant in a world in which being able to charge a phone can mean the difference between being able to get on a flight/train etc. or missing it.

Apple switching to USB-C has doubled (or more, based on the country) the odds of finding somebody with a compatible cable and power bank in a pinch.

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4. dspillett ◴[28 Mar 25 16:49 UTC] No.43507527[source]▶
> non-Apple acquaintances were mocking me for having a non-usb-c phone

I've not mocked an Apple user purely for having a non-standard port on their device, though I have more than once mocked the arrogance of an Apple user being put out because when they were wanting to borrow a charger/battery/cable I only had standard parts, those needed to support my devices, in my kit.

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5. jeffhuys ◴[01 Apr 25 14:27 UTC] No.43547184{3}[source]▶
Right, I get the usefulness. Absolutely. But would you just randomly mock a person for not having a USB-C connection? They just saw my phone, I didn't even ask for a charger.

Besides, I always carry a collection of cables, even for those who mock me.

6. jeffhuys ◴[01 Apr 25 14:30 UTC] No.43547228{3}[source]▶
Yeah, that's arrogance. I wish people were less simple-minded and throw everyone under a label; multiple times I've gotten the comment (irl) in the vein of "you actually know a lot about computers for an _apple user_". I always tell them that it's the reason I switched.

I'm not accusing you of being simple minded btw! It's just that most people are like that. Dumb people use windows. Dumb people use apple. Reality is more complex than "X = Y".