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Waymos crash less than human drivers

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wnissen ◴[] No.43487648[source]
Serious crash rates are a hockey stick pattern. 20% of the drivers cause 80% of the crashes, to a rough approximation. For the worst 20% of drivers, the Waymo is almost certainly better already.

Honestly, at this point I am more interested in whether they can operate their service profitably and affordably, because they are clearly nailing the technical side.

For example data from a 100 driver study, see table 2.11, p. 29. https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/37370 Roughly the same number of drivers had 0 or 1 near-crashes as had 13-50+. One of the drivers had 56 near crashes and 4 actual crashes in less than 20K miles! So the average isn't that helpful here.

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michaelmrose ◴[] No.43487829[source]
What about the benefit to the 80% if the 20% were obligated to use software instead of their own wetware in a hypothetical world where this was feasible in all respects. Imagine if you transitioned to most new drivers for instance being issued only permits to use self driving vehicles and older drivers being obligated to switch at 65.
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1. threatofrain ◴[] No.43488624[source]
Perhaps drunk drivers should be obligated to use automatic cars for some duration.
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2. shadowgovt ◴[] No.43489000[source]
The main reason we don't revoke licenses more aggressively right now is that America's infrastructure is so car-oriented that forcing people to never drive again can be a disruption on-par with being added to the sex-offender registry (1).

If self-driving cars became prevalent, I can absolutely see it leading to an increase in license revocation as a punishment for unsafe driving.

(1) Setting aside one's personal opinion on which is more dangerous to society: people on the sex-offender registry or drunk drivers.

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3. Scoundreller ◴[] No.43491082[source]
Iunno, doesn’t stop Canada from issuing 1yr driving bans for 1st offence DUI, and that starts at 0.08

(And a lot of provinces do bans measured in days if you hit 0.05)

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4. Zigurd ◴[] No.43493328{3}[source]
America is different and becoming more so.