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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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1009 points n1b0m | 5 comments | 19 Mar 25 11:21 UTC | HN request time: 1.083s | source
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drumhead ◴[19 Mar 25 12:41 UTC] No.43411088[source]▶
If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjected to their own more oppressive and never ending hells, like being deported to a prison camp in Ecuador with no idea when you'd ever be released.

New America is absolutely terrifying.

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rayiner[dead post] ◴[19 Mar 25 13:14 UTC] No.43411482[source]▶
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1. comte7092 ◴[19 Mar 25 15:39 UTC] No.43413469[source]▶
The only option is to pursue draconian “enforcement” on people who enter through ports of entry following the established legal process?

Let’s not kid ourselves here, it’s not nor has it ever been about “illegal” immigration, it’s immigration in general.

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2. rayiner ◴[19 Mar 25 17:44 UTC] No.43415111[source]▶
What do you think the point is of having immigration laws? It’s to control how many immigrants come in and which ones. If you essentially make all the illegal immigration “legal” then you’ve erased the difference.
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3. comte7092 ◴[19 Mar 25 18:07 UTC] No.43415419[source]▶
The conversation I engaged with was about people who are following the law. You are arguing against a point I never made here.

I’d ask you what the point of having laws is if we are going to detain and deport people outside of the established legal process.

This thread is in response to an individual who came here on a valid work visa.

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4. rayiner ◴[19 Mar 25 19:55 UTC] No.43416578{3}[source]▶
From the article:

> He claimed I also couldn’t work for a company in the US that made use of hemp – one of the beverage ingredients. He revoked my visa, and told me I could still work for the company from Canada, but if I wanted to return to the US, I would need to reapply.

> I restarted the visa process and returned to the same immigration office at the San Diego border, since they had processed my visa before and I was familiar with it.

This lady is Canadian. She has her visa revoked. Then she goes back to an immigration office on the San Diego border to apply for a visa? Last I checked, no part of the San Diego border is in Canada. So how did she find herself in U.S. custody with a revoked visa?

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5. comte7092 ◴[19 Mar 25 21:52 UTC] No.43417685{4}[source]▶
> So how did she find herself in U.S. custody with a revoked visa?

The original officer likely lacked the authority to actually revoke her visa:

https://fam.state.gov/fam/09FAM/09FAM040311.html

9 FAM 403.11-3(B) (U) When You May Not Revoke A Visa (CT:VISA-1463; 02-01-2022)

a. (U) You do not have the authority to revoke a visa based on a suspected ineligibility or based on derogatory information that is insufficient to support an ineligibility finding, other than a revocation based on driving under the influence (DUI). A consular revocation must be based on an actual finding that the individual is ineligible for the visa.

b. (U) Under no circumstances should you revoke a visa when the individual is in the United States, or after the individual has commenced an uninterrupted journey to the United States, other than a revocation based on driving under the influence (DUI). Outside of the DUI exception, revocations of individuals in, or en route to, the United States may only be done by the Department's Visa Office of Screening, Analysis, and Coordination (CA/VO/SAC).