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371 points clumsysmurf | 4 comments | | HN request time: 0.857s | source
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jmward01 ◴[] No.43109986[source]
The challenge with any article like this is that the correlated impact on health outcomes is always implied in the article but is rarely studied as part of the research cited. Just because a is bad and b has a property similar to a that doesn't imply b has the same harmful impacts as a. I really wish articles would limit big headlines like this unless the research cited was directly comparing mortality and health outcomes directly. If the study this article was based on came to the conclusion that 'average household aerosol use has a similar associated mortality risk as average city car pollution' then the title could have been warranted but instead we got a bit of click-bait. A slightly better title could have been 'Scented products cause unexpected levels of indoor air pollution'. I'd even argue 'Scented products cause concerning levels of indoor air pollution' is a reasonable title since it is worth our concern and further study.
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7thaccount ◴[] No.43110051[source]
Not much to add here other than as someone with terrible allergies and asthma, the constant need for plugin air fresheners, scented candles, scented laundry detergent, and scented lotions, perfumes, febreeze, and scented deodorant drives me crazy. I don't think normal folks realize how they're breathing in straight chemicals all day.
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kstrauser ◴[] No.43111825[source]
Oh man. A previous employer had someone come around and spray for bugs monthly. I told them to let me know when it was going to be so I could stay away for an afternoon. The exterminator insisted it was perfectly safe and wouldn’t bother me. Yeah, well, immune stuff runs in the family — my older sister had lupus — and it did, in fact, bother me.

As a test or something, he came around spraying without telling me. I was in my office when I felt my sinuses starting to swell and my chest started tightening. When I walked out into the common room and saw him smiling at me with a “see, told you it’s your imagination” grin, my coworkers had to drag me outside because I was ready to kill him.

Look, man, I’d freaking love not to have asthma and other allergy stuff. I don’t like taking handfuls of antihistamines. I’m not trying to be a pain in the ass. I just don’t, like, enjoying dying.

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fredrikholm ◴[] No.43111918[source]
There's few things that makes me dislike someone quicker than when they dismiss the suffering of others, or use their own circumstances to dismiss others inability to "just don't X".

Look, man, shut up.

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mcny ◴[] No.43113109[source]
Or trivializes other people's work. Like when a lead developer or a manager wants to chime in and say the story point estimate is too much and it should be smaller.

> Just do x, y, z

Ok then you take the story.

> Oh but I don't know frontend.

But you know the estimate is wrong?

I hate the word "just"

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1. chriswarbo ◴[] No.43113463[source]
> I hate the word "just"

This is one of those things that someone pointed out to me, I agreed with them and have since tried to avoid saying "just do ...", "why not just ...", etc.

However, that means I now really notice it from others. sigh

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2. Thorrez ◴[] No.43115703[source]
I generally try to avoid the word just. However, I'll still occasionally use it during a code review, when I see a large amount of code that can be replaced by something much simpler and smaller.
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3. mcny ◴[] No.43119704[source]
I am all for it if you are willing and able to sit down and follow through. Or at least show me the way. I can't read minds.
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4. wink ◴[] No.43125692{3}[source]
An ex-coworker introduced the rule that every time someone said "You just..." he increased his estimation by 1 level (standard fibonacci planning poker).

That was like 15 years ago and I've at least mentioned that rule to every team I've been a part of ever since. It usually works.