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Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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612 points meetpateltech | 1 comments | 05 Feb 25 16:03 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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jbarrow ◴[05 Feb 25 17:29 UTC] No.42952017[source]▶
I've been very impressed by Gemini 2.0 Flash for multimodal tasks, including object detection and localization[1], plus document tasks. But the 15 requests per minute limit was a severe limiter while it was experimental. I'm really excited to be able to actually _do_ things with the model.

In my experience, I'd reach for Gemini 2.0 Flash over 4o in a lot of multimodal/document use cases. Especially given the differences in price ($0.10/million input and $0.40/million output versus $2.50/million input and $10.00/million output).

That being said, Qwen2.5 VL 72B and 7B seem even better at document image tasks and localization.

[1] https://notes.penpusher.app/Misc/Google+Gemini+101+-+Object+...

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Alifatisk ◴[05 Feb 25 17:58 UTC] No.42952471[source]▶
> In my experience, I'd reach for Gemini 2.0 Flash over 4o

Why not use o1-mini?

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1. jbarrow ◴[05 Feb 25 18:08 UTC] No.42952648[source]▶
Mostly because OpenAI's vision offerings aren't particularly compelling:

- 4o can't really do localization, and ime is worse than Gemini 2.0 and Qwen2.5 at document tasks

- 4o mini isn't cheaper than 4o for images because it uses a lot of tokens per image compared to 4o (~5600/tile vs 170/tile, where each tile is 512x512)

- o1 has support for vision but is wildly expensive and slow

- o3-mini doesn't yet have support for vision, and o1-mini never did