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cies ◴[] No.42946912[source]
> ORMs are the devil in all languages and all implementations. Just write the damn SQL

This week wrote an article on this, since I found there's a lot to explain wrt this topic:

https://dev.to/cies/the-case-against-orms-5bh4

On HN:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42922014

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MisterKent ◴[] No.42947249[source]
I've been loving edgedb in my typescript side projects for a number of years now. I have always hated ORMs, mostly for performance and a little bit for elegance / ergonomics. Curious if you have thoughts on a solution like that?
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cies ◴[] No.42947845[source]
I like EdgeDB. The only downside I see is the lock-in, that is less of an issue with SQL.

While I have not used EdgeDB, I have used Hasura, which I really liked.

Wrt the syntax of queries, I know of https://prql-lang.org which is kind of similar of EdgeQL.

Funny that EdgeDB says on its page it tries to solve the ORM problem: I strongly believe ORMs do not solve any problem, they merely create problems (as I argue in the linked article).

Wrt my thoughts: the EdgeQL queries are usually still strings (no compile time type checking, not IDE tooling). With Hasura the GraphQL interface (that EdgeDB also supports) allows one to generate a client library based on the GraphQL schema: this allows one to have compile time checks on the queries, which is really neat.

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1. cluckindan ◴[] No.42949727[source]
If you like GraphQL and are looking at databases, try Dgraph community edition some day.