No Calls

Dear goodness will any other companies trying to sell to the company I work at please adopt this strategy. Please explain clearly what your product does, how you handle security, and what the enterprise license costs on the homepage.

Please do not harass us with calls and perpetual emails asking to schedule calls. If a call is what it takes to answer basic security and pricing questions, I loathe your company name before we've spoken and am very interested in doing business with anyone who *does* post that stuff online.

I do not understand why that's difficult, but it must be.

I wish I could use what this guy is selling.

A lot of companies don't actually sell a product that does anything useful, though. They sell an idea that sounds useful to management, and obscuring the truth earns more money.

A crucial point that is lost on this venture capital-funded forum: scummy garbage makes money. Taking sales people out for steak and whiskey makes money. Lying makes money. (That last point is especially funny considering how startups lie, too, like having a landing page and no product but collecting emails like you do.)

The economy is built on grifting, at this point, and every time, people here are shocked, SHOCKED that that is the case.

> The economy is built on grifting, at this point

I agreed until here. Obviously, lying isn't the only way to make money. I make furniture and fix windows in old houses for a living. Am I grifting?

When you stretch into hyperbole, you lose the ability to convince people in the middle.

It's not that hyperbolic. I'd say the economy isn't built on you making furniture and fixing windows in old houses for a living.

Do folks like you exist? Yes. Is the economy built on folks like you? No.

What do you think the economy is built on? Do you realize how much is spent on basic things like energy, food, construction of roads, buildings, houses?

It’s very obvious when people straight up lie in these industries because the physical thing never materializes.