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    Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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    781 points HelloUsername | 15 comments | 16 Jan 25 13:08 UTC | HN request time: 0.444s | source | bottom
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    nerdjon ◴[16 Jan 25 14:11 UTC] No.42725322[source]▶
    Happy to see that Nintendo is treating the switch more like how they traditionally handled their mobile platforms instead of their consoles.

    Iterating instead of throwing out everything with each new version. There is a part of me that is going to miss the, do weird shit and see what works, Nintendo that brought us some really fun ideas. But a stable Nintendo just being able to continue putting out great games has its advantages.

    I am curious about the specs, but honestly don't care much. The only real issue the Switch had was being able to keep up with some of the games put on it with FPS but it still had beautiful games (like Tears of the Kingdom). So as long as it is actually a decent spec bump I am happy and have zero care to compare it to the other consoles (but I am sure people are going too and scream that it is "underpowered").

    The biggest thing I am curious about, will it be OLED since that will be disappointing to go back to non OLED from the OLED Switch. And Price.

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    bargainbin ◴[16 Jan 25 16:02 UTC] No.42727079[source]▶
    They’ve got the weird shit covered still, apparently the joy cons in this gen can be used as mice.

    Was heavily rumoured/leaked and this teaser video literally shows them gliding along a surface.

    How Nintendo will leverage that functionality, who could honestly say, but that’s the genius of keeping a toy company mindset in an industry full of sports car company mindsets.

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    adamc ◴[16 Jan 25 16:13 UTC] No.42727232[source]▶
    That last sentence is worth an essay of its own. Everyone else keeps pumping resources into being photo-realistic blah-blah-blah without nearly enough attention to "is this fun"?
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    1. ecliptik ◴[16 Jan 25 16:40 UTC] No.42727589[source]▶
    One of my favorite video essay's on this is "Nintendo - Putting Play First" by Game Makers Toolkit [1]. It goes into when making a game, Nintendo first determines the mechanic they want to focus on; jumping, throwing a hat, shooting paint, etc and finding out how to make it fun, then building and iterating on the idea.

    It's how they can keep putting out essentially the same games but are completely different.

    1. https://youtu.be/2u6HTG8LuXQ

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    2. dmonitor ◴[16 Jan 25 19:36 UTC] No.42729849[source]▶
    GMTK is popular, but he's mostly talking out of his ass. He's got zero industry experience and most gamedevs I know personally clown on his takes constantly. Unless he references specific Nintendo interviews where they talk about their design process, I have doubts about this video containing an accurate description of how Nintendo does things.
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    4. gusgus01 ◴[16 Jan 25 20:01 UTC] No.42730141[source]▶
    At least in this video, all the interviews and documents that they base their claims/opinions on are listed in the description, so you can easily also peruse them if you doubt the interpretation.
    5. acomjean ◴[16 Jan 25 21:30 UTC] No.42731145[source]▶
    I've seem some of his videos, but I'm not that familiar with GMTK. But they did release a game, and it was by all accounts "Very positive" /pretty good.

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2685900/Mind_Over_Magnet/

    6. jonwinstanley ◴[16 Jan 25 23:31 UTC] No.42732296[source]▶
    His videos are great!
    7. magpi3 ◴[16 Jan 25 23:46 UTC] No.42732418[source]▶
    This always made sense to me. Think of Super Mario Bros. No way you come up with something like that from a top-down design document. Probably slapped Mario on a screen, played with the physics a bunch, and threw a lot of different stuff at the wall to see what stuck before they came up with the final product.
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    8. tomrod ◴[17 Jan 25 01:07 UTC] No.42732942[source]▶
    Most games are pretty bad, so this tracks I guess.

    Need more Larians in the world.

    9. pcchristie ◴[17 Jan 25 01:28 UTC] No.42733067[source]▶
    I can't tell you how much respect I have for this mindset. Like them burning a heap of money on Metroid Prime 4, for years, and then coming out with an announcement along the lines of "sorry guys, this sucks, so we've chucked it out and started again because we only do things right, see you in another 3-4 years when it's ready."

    It pays dividends, because they just don't ship junk, so everything they DO ship sells extremely well.

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    10. Larrikin ◴[17 Jan 25 02:51 UTC] No.42733587[source]▶
    Not sure about the original game but at least since the 3d age, Miyamoto is on record, saying that when making a new Mario game, one of the first steps is that is just fun to goof around with Mario alone in an empty flat void and mess with whatever new abilities they are thinking of giving him.
    11. jdlshore ◴[17 Jan 25 08:01 UTC] No.42735132[source]▶
    You should have watched the video before you shat on it.

    Yes, he references specific Nintendo interviews in the video. Frequently, in fact, and in detail.

    12. adamc ◴[17 Jan 25 14:42 UTC] No.42737980[source]▶
    This is the right mindset. It makes your customers trust you.
    13. wbl ◴[17 Jan 25 16:39 UTC] No.42739934[source]▶
    Some stuff they have sells well: Smash, Zelda, Pokemon. Metroid sells a lot less well.
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    14. DiggyJohnson ◴[17 Jan 25 17:09 UTC] No.42740491{3}[source]▶
    How does that relate to this discussion?
    15. depsypher ◴[21 Jan 25 16:27 UTC] No.42781953[source]▶
    Mostly true, but Everybody 1-2-Switch was pretty close to being junk though.