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Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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781 points HelloUsername | 31 comments | 16 Jan 25 13:08 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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VyseofArcadia ◴[16 Jan 25 13:53 UTC] No.42725103[source]▶
I don't like the aesthetic as much as the Switch 1. Looks a little too sleek, too monochrome, not Nintendo-y enough. Other than the splash of color around the thumbsticks it looks like any number of those handheld Steam Deck-alikes that have been coming out.

That said I always wait for the special Zelda editions of Nintendo's consoles, so I don't know that I have standing to complain.

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1. talles ◴[16 Jan 25 14:08 UTC] No.42725279[source]▶
Nintendo is not Nintendo-y enough for a while now. The switch system UI is bland and on launch the gray switch was the one being presented.
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2. VyseofArcadia ◴[16 Jan 25 14:12 UTC] No.42725337[source]▶
Yeah, I am not a big fan of the Switch UI. They really took out the "surprise and delight" compared to the Wii U and 3DS. Very bland and straightforward, and yet somehow awfully slow and laggy.
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3. RajT88 ◴[16 Jan 25 14:26 UTC] No.42725526[source]▶
Speaking of - does anyone know of an HTPC frontend which duplicates the look and feel of the Wii menu?
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4. Johanx64 ◴[16 Jan 25 14:54 UTC] No.42725990[source]▶
It's so odd to see Nintendo who hasn't competed on hardware specs for decades to release new console without atleast some gimmick(s) to sell their severely underpowered hardware.

Absolute zero gimmicks and zero excitement.

I personally dont care for gimmicks, but I expect them from Nintendo.

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5. jncfhnb ◴[16 Jan 25 15:22 UTC] No.42726461[source]▶
I disagree. I find it delightful. The sounds are awesome.
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6. CitrusFruits ◴[16 Jan 25 15:24 UTC] No.42726504[source]▶
People are speculating that you can use the controllers like a computer mouse. You can see an allusion to that towards the end of the video.
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8. KeplerBoy ◴[16 Jan 25 15:40 UTC] No.42726731[source]▶
Who even runs HTPCs these days?
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9. koolala ◴[16 Jan 25 15:49 UTC] No.42726867{3}[source]▶
That's a really old-school gimmick if so.
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10. joshuakcockrell ◴[16 Jan 25 15:52 UTC] No.42726910{3}[source]▶
Have you scrolled through the Switch store? The UI freezes for seconds at a time while network requests lock up the main thread.
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11. dasKrokodil ◴[16 Jan 25 16:07 UTC] No.42727146{3}[source]▶
Yeah, and this might make first-person shooters and some strategy games play a lot nicer if (big if) it works well. Perhaps the next iteration of Mario Maker might also make use of it.
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12. numpad0 ◴[16 Jan 25 16:16 UTC] No.42727284{3}[source]▶
That sounds like such an obvious oversight with benefit of hindsight. They could have instantly plugged Valorant/Apex gateway into PC established by YT Live/Twitch through that if only they had it on the right joycon.
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13. bobthepanda ◴[16 Jan 25 16:21 UTC] No.42727359{4}[source]▶
Retro things have a habit of coming back. See: polaroids
14. VyseofArcadia ◴[16 Jan 25 16:26 UTC] No.42727421{3}[source]▶
The sound design is in fact delightful. Nintendo is great at sound design.
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15. cma ◴[16 Jan 25 16:47 UTC] No.42727674{4}[source]▶
The Lenovo Legion Go I think has this for FPS games. Joycon like thing goes into a little slider adapter and becomes a vertical mouse.
16. RajT88 ◴[16 Jan 25 16:55 UTC] No.42727759{3}[source]▶
I was interested in disconnecting my smart TV from the internet and using a replacement which I am in complete control of.

As to "who", some part of the demographic who runs JellyFin/Plex/Etc.

17. gjsman-1000 ◴[16 Jan 25 17:52 UTC] No.42728479[source]▶
There's a very good reason for this: The whole OS is under 400MB. Every Nintendo Switch game cartridge comes with a full copy of the necessary OS on it.

Every game card is playable, no matter how out of date the Switch is, without any internet connection.

I'll take that kind of functionality before "surprise and delight." We might get "surprise and delight" this generation though, if in part because the change to a modified Samsung NAND over Macronix might be cheaper at larger capacities if rumors are correct.

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18. Dylan16807 ◴[16 Jan 25 18:11 UTC] No.42728747{3}[source]▶
400MB is huge, and cute touches can be very small.
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19. red-iron-pine ◴[16 Jan 25 18:46 UTC] No.42729205{3}[source]▶
people who appreciate that Roku is a marketing company and not a gadget company
20. gjsman-1000 ◴[16 Jan 25 18:59 UTC] No.42729378{4}[source]▶
It's not that large considering the size of NVIDIA drivers + WebKit alone.

By comparison, the Wii U with it's "nice touches" was over 5 GB.

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21. Shared404 ◴[16 Jan 25 19:01 UTC] No.42729418{3}[source]▶
> Every game card is playable, no matter how out of date the Switch is, without any internet connection.

This is mostly accurate, but not entirely afaict. I had to connect my switch to wifi in order to update the OS to play Xenoblade 3 (or Tears of the Kingdom? It's been a while).

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22. gjsman-1000 ◴[16 Jan 25 19:03 UTC] No.42729432{4}[source]▶
Might be TOTK; I personally updated an offline Switch to use Sonic X Shadow Generations from the cartridge alone yesterday.
23. glhaynes ◴[16 Jan 25 20:00 UTC] No.42730133{4}[source]▶
That's the only part I don't like about the Switch OS, and, yes, it's very bad. And it always baffles me why they wouldn't improve the app that generates revenue of all things.
24. 2muchcoffeeman ◴[16 Jan 25 20:14 UTC] No.42730299{4}[source]▶
They had it right with motion controls on the Wii. I could headshot on the Wii edition of Resident Evil 4 so effectively it was cheating.

The Switch also has motion control for fine aiming in some games (Zelda, Borderlands 2). Joysticks for gross movement then motion controls for smaller adjustments. Much better scheme than Xbox or PS.

Strategy games might benefit.

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25. dcrazy ◴[16 Jan 25 20:21 UTC] No.42730395{4}[source]▶
Didn’t a third party company design the Switch UI?
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26. WickyNilliams ◴[16 Jan 25 22:20 UTC] No.42731650{5}[source]▶
Resi 4 on the Wii was so good. It was a good game anyway, but the aiming was precise and a hell of a lot of fun. I think about it a lot. I'm hesitant to play the remaster on my steam deck because I doubt it's possible to be as good
27. Dylan16807 ◴[16 Jan 25 22:47 UTC] No.42731877{5}[source]▶
The necessary OS for running the game doesn't need webkit, and I doubt the important part of the nvidia drivers is super big.
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28. kergonath ◴[16 Jan 25 22:56 UTC] No.42731967[source]▶
I hated the 3DS UI. It was not exciting, it was bad and inconsistent. At least with the Switch it is unobstrusive.
29. easton ◴[16 Jan 25 23:09 UTC] No.42732095{6}[source]▶
I would doubt they made a build of the OS without webkit, or else you’d have a OS without captive portal or eShop support. Feels annoying.
30. jncfhnb ◴[17 Jan 25 23:50 UTC] No.42744469{5}[source]▶
That sounds like an extremely unlikely claim
31. saulpw ◴[18 Jan 25 01:02 UTC] No.42744836{4}[source]▶
And you can only buy one game at a time, and have to enter your password in for each one? I like to do all my game research and shopping in one evening and buy 3-4 games at a time. If there's a way to do this I would love to know how!