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1. quick_brown_fox ◴[] No.42620719[source]
How about “We sell a computer called the tinybox. It comes in two colors + pro.

tinybox red and green are for people looking for a quiet home/office machine. tinybox pro is for people looking for a loud compact rack machine.” [0]

[0] https://tinygrad.org/#tinybox

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2. kkzz99 ◴[] No.42620758[source]
These look terrible. For 5 times the price you get worse performance.
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3. moffkalast ◴[] No.42621266[source]
>tinybox

>the size of several ATX desktops

4. mft_ ◴[] No.42621741[source]
This was my second thought; while we don’t have full performance data, it’s probably a bad day for tinybox.
5. nilstycho ◴[] No.42623182[source]
Are you comparing tinybox red with 738 FP16 TFLOPS at $15K to Project Digits with 1 FP4 PFLOP at $3K? Or did they announce the Project Digits FP16 performance somewhere?
6. loudmax ◴[] No.42623779[source]
Going by the specs, this pretty much blows Tinybox out of the water.

For $40,000, a Tinybox pro is advertised as offering 1.36 petaflops processing and 192 GB VRAM.

For about $6,000 a pair of Nvidia Project Digits offer about a combined 2 petaflops processing and 256 GB VRAM.

The market segment for Tinybox always seemed to be people that were somewhat price-insensitive, but unless Nvidia completely fumbles on execution, I struggle to think of any benefits of a Tinygrad Tinybox over an Nvidia Digits. Maybe if you absolutely, positively, need to run your OS on x86.

I'd love to see if AMD or Intel has a response to these. I'm not holding my breath.

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7. nilstycho ◴[] No.42624000[source]
> For about $6,000 a pair of Nvidia Project Digits offer about a combined 2 petaflops processing and 256 GB VRAM.

2 PFLOPS at FP4.

256 GB RAM, not VRAM. I think they haven't specified the memory bandwidth.

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8. loudmax ◴[] No.42624313{3}[source]
You're right. Tinybox's 1.36 petaflops is FP16 so that is a significant difference.

Also, the Tinybox's memory bandwidth is 8064 GB/s, while the Digits seems to be around 512 GB/s, according to speculation on Reddit.

Moreover, Nvidia's announced their RTX 5090s priced at $2k, which could put downward pressure on the price of Tinybox's 4090s. So the Tinybox green or pro models might get cheaper, or they might come out with a 5090-based model.

If you're the kind of person that's ready to spend $40k on a beastly ML workstation, there's still some upside to Tinybox.

9. elorant ◴[] No.42626120[source]
You're missing the most critical part though. Memory bandwidth. It hasn't been announced yet for Digits and it probably won't be comparable to that of dedicated GPUs.