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kfogel ◴[] No.42475215[source]
Most of the comments so far are about the temperature and the closeness to the sun, and, hey, I get it: those are both amazing to think about. But to me even more amazing is... 0.16% of the speed of light?? Yikes.
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verzali ◴[] No.42475305[source]
Pretty sure it's 0.064%, not sure why the article got it wrong, still impressive though
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caseyohara ◴[] No.42475809[source]
Still. ~200,000 m/s (= ~430,000 mph) is unfathomably fast.
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jebarker ◴[] No.42477069[source]
It is, although I was still a little surprised it's on the order of a minute to go NYC to Tokyo at that speed. My intuition was it would be much less time.
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sandworm101 ◴[] No.42478325[source]
Light is fast, but it isn't imperceptible. The original experiments to measure it in a lab involved spinning rigs and mirrors between hills. When dealing with objects the size of continents, such as phone or other communication systems, the delays are well within our abilities to detect.
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gosub100 ◴[] No.42480715[source]
terrestrial phone / internet carried by undersea cables are gated by the relays more so than c. the ping time from US to Australia (one way) is about 115 ms (rounding down, using most optimistic data.

Light can travel over 34,000km in that time. The great arc distance from LA to Sydney is just over 12,000km. In all likelihood the fiber line connecting them doesn't follow that arc, but it shouldn't be too far out of limits. So about 2/3 of the latency is caused by relays and switching equipment.

it gets even worse for satellite, because (until starlink) communications satellites are in geosynchronous orbit, 35,000km above the equator. so talking on one means a 70km round trip, which causes its path to take over 5x more distance than the linear distance (across the surface) between those 2 cities.

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1. sandworm101 ◴[] No.42483749[source]
>> it gets even worse for satellite, because (until starlink) communications satellites are in geosynchronous orbit

No. There were and are other communication satellites in lower orbits. SpaceX did not invent the concept of low-orbit communications satellites. The first satellites of the 90+ Iridium constellation were launched in the late 90s. That system is still online in low orbit today. Before that there were various military/state-owned satellites. The Soviet Union and Russia were big on providing coms to areas where the geo-stationary relays could not, specifically the north, as far back as the 60s. See the Molnya program.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molniya_(satellite)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridium_satellite_constellatio...