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TheJoeMan ◴[] No.42197249[source]
This is a great step in the right direction. I can't speak directly for MIT, but there are issues with how these programs don't apply to parents with small family businesses. My parents had a small business, with my father taking home a salary of $XX,XXX. Duke University used the business assets to determine the EFC (expected family contribution) of literally 90% of the salary. Essentially saying to sell off the family business for the college fund, which was a non-starter.

Small businesses are allegedly the backbone of America, and I feel these tuition support programs overlook this segment of the middle-class.

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s1artibartfast ◴[] No.42198630[source]
Isn't the entire point of these assessments to look at total assets, and not just annual income?

I dont think this was an oversight or mistake. I think the expectation was that yes, people should sell assets if they have them .

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xboxnolifes ◴[] No.42198884[source]
The "mistake" is that the assets themselves are the source of income. Sell them off, and the income goes away too. It's the equivalent of expecting the parents to use 100% of their income to put their kids into college, which is impossible.
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s1artibartfast ◴[] No.42199287[source]
IF I have stock and make $XX,XXX in dividends, how is that different? IF I have own apartments and make $XX,XXX in rent, how is that different?

I think the idea is that Yes, the expectation is for people to make actual sacrifice before they qualify.

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1. snowwrestler ◴[] No.42201033[source]
It would be similar if your stock dividends were your sole irreplaceable means of support. So, you sell your stock and give the money to MIT. Now you can’t buy more stock, and therefore have no future income. Permanently ending your career to send your kid to college is an unreasonable sacrifice, in my book.
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2. s1artibartfast ◴[] No.42201090[source]
I wouldn't want to make that sacrifice either, but I also understand that im not entitled to tuition assistance as some sort of human right
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3. snowwrestler ◴[] No.42201336[source]
No one is arguing it is some sort of human right. The argument is that being the owner-operator of a small business is a financially different situation from having a lot of liquid wealth sitting around. And that smart universities should figure that out so they don’t accidentally lose good students over silly structural flaws in their financial aid processes.
4. baq ◴[] No.42201611[source]
There are countries with free public respected universities. So yeah not a human right but not that far off depending on where you live.