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nabla9 ◴[] No.42191758[source]
October 2023 there was similar incident where Chinese cargo ship cut Balticonnector cable and EE-S1 cable. Chip named 'Newnew Polar Bear' under Chinese flag and Chinese company Hainan Xin Xin Yang Shipping Co, Ltd. (aka Torgmoll) with CEO named Yelena V. Maksimova, drags anchor in the seabed cutting cables. Chinese investigation claims storm was the reason, but there was no storm, just normal windy autumn weather. The ship just lowered one anchor and dragged it with engines running long time across the seabed until the anchor broke.

These things happen sometimes, ship anchors sometimes damage cables, but not this often and without serious problems in the ship. Russians are attempting plausible deniability.

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cabirum ◴[] No.42192160[source]
After the Nordstream pipeline attacked and destroyed, its reasonable to expect shortened lifetimes for undersea cables and sattelites.
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trhway ◴[] No.42192401[source]
it sounds like you've probably never seen this - tanker Minerva Julie (belonging to Putin's friends) traveling through the Baltic Sea suddenly decided to hang around for a week right at the same place where couple weeks later Nord Stream exploded:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/16/23/68797949-11868975...

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tsimionescu ◴[] No.42197139[source]
Yes, of course Putin decided to sabotage the largest infrastructure investment in his country's history, that he worked for a decade to get built.
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trhway ◴[] No.42198561[source]
Putin sabotaged the 3 centuries of Russia’s progress. The pipeline is just a noise here.

>he worked for a decade to get built

that is sweet of you. I just imagine Putin himself welding under water. Not the billions dollars steal by his childhood buddies what typically such Russian megaprojects are.

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burnt-resistor ◴[] No.42198931[source]
It's probable the US and possibly Norway did it under cover of BALTOPS 22.

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the...

Snopes only offers FUD but not a single contradiction or refutation of any of Sy Hersh's reporting or claims other than it boils down to "it relies on a single source". Sometimes, in secret operations, that's the reality. There exist genuine anonymous sources who cannot be revealed themselves. Part of the principle of benefit-of-the-doubt is trusting that Sy Hersh isn't merely looking for a quick payday to sellout his journalistic integrity for a few dollars and that he isn't an easily-fooled novice when it comes to doing due-diligence on sources and facts. It's mostly a disrespectful hit-piece lacking in evidence. With all likelihood, like the identity of Deep Throat, the truth will come out once the source retires and write a book about it.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/02/10/hersh-nord-stream-sab...

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groby_b ◴[] No.42199106[source]
If it weren't Sy Hersh, this might be more believable. The guy has been putting some distance between himself and reality for over a decade now.

(Could it be true? Maybe. IDK. No dog in that particular fight. But if you, as an anonymous source, go to Sy Hersh, you're an idiot or don't want large numbers of people to believe what you're saying. Occam's razor suggests the former)

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aguaviva ◴[] No.42199750[source]
Yup - he's a genuine tragedy.
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1. burnt-resistor ◴[] No.42200191[source]
So another Aaron Maté?