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Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times matching when they broke

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499 points perihelions | 12 comments | 20 Nov 24 06:56 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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nabla9 ◴[20 Nov 24 08:15 UTC] No.42191758[source]▶
October 2023 there was similar incident where Chinese cargo ship cut Balticonnector cable and EE-S1 cable. Chip named 'Newnew Polar Bear' under Chinese flag and Chinese company Hainan Xin Xin Yang Shipping Co, Ltd. (aka Torgmoll) with CEO named Yelena V. Maksimova, drags anchor in the seabed cutting cables. Chinese investigation claims storm was the reason, but there was no storm, just normal windy autumn weather. The ship just lowered one anchor and dragged it with engines running long time across the seabed until the anchor broke.

These things happen sometimes, ship anchors sometimes damage cables, but not this often and without serious problems in the ship. Russians are attempting plausible deniability.

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cabirum ◴[20 Nov 24 09:27 UTC] No.42192160[source]▶
After the Nordstream pipeline attacked and destroyed, its reasonable to expect shortened lifetimes for undersea cables and sattelites.
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trhway ◴[20 Nov 24 10:08 UTC] No.42192401[source]▶
it sounds like you've probably never seen this - tanker Minerva Julie (belonging to Putin's friends) traveling through the Baltic Sea suddenly decided to hang around for a week right at the same place where couple weeks later Nord Stream exploded:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/16/23/68797949-11868975...

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1. tsimionescu ◴[20 Nov 24 19:13 UTC] No.42197139[source]▶
Yes, of course Putin decided to sabotage the largest infrastructure investment in his country's history, that he worked for a decade to get built.
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2. trhway ◴[20 Nov 24 22:01 UTC] No.42198561[source]▶
Putin sabotaged the 3 centuries of Russia’s progress. The pipeline is just a noise here.

>he worked for a decade to get built

that is sweet of you. I just imagine Putin himself welding under water. Not the billions dollars steal by his childhood buddies what typically such Russian megaprojects are.

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3. burnt-resistor ◴[20 Nov 24 22:47 UTC] No.42198931[source]▶
It's probable the US and possibly Norway did it under cover of BALTOPS 22.

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the...

Snopes only offers FUD but not a single contradiction or refutation of any of Sy Hersh's reporting or claims other than it boils down to "it relies on a single source". Sometimes, in secret operations, that's the reality. There exist genuine anonymous sources who cannot be revealed themselves. Part of the principle of benefit-of-the-doubt is trusting that Sy Hersh isn't merely looking for a quick payday to sellout his journalistic integrity for a few dollars and that he isn't an easily-fooled novice when it comes to doing due-diligence on sources and facts. It's mostly a disrespectful hit-piece lacking in evidence. With all likelihood, like the identity of Deep Throat, the truth will come out once the source retires and write a book about it.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/02/10/hersh-nord-stream-sab...

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4. groby_b ◴[20 Nov 24 23:10 UTC] No.42199106{3}[source]▶
If it weren't Sy Hersh, this might be more believable. The guy has been putting some distance between himself and reality for over a decade now.

(Could it be true? Maybe. IDK. No dog in that particular fight. But if you, as an anonymous source, go to Sy Hersh, you're an idiot or don't want large numbers of people to believe what you're saying. Occam's razor suggests the former)

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5. cactusplant7374 ◴[20 Nov 24 23:45 UTC] No.42199383[source]▶
They have done this twice before. Russia weaponizes its energy. That has been the pattern.

Russia Georgia Energy Crisis (2006)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Russia%E2%80%93Georgia_...

Turkmenistan (2009)

https://www.rferl.org/a/Pipeline_Explosion_Stokes_Tensions_B...

6. aguaviva ◴[21 Nov 24 00:34 UTC] No.42199750{4}[source]▶
Yup - he's a genuine tragedy.
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7. burnt-resistor ◴[21 Nov 24 01:43 UTC] No.42200191{5}[source]▶
So another Aaron Maté?
8. PittleyDunkin ◴[21 Nov 24 03:16 UTC] No.42200751[source]▶
> Putin sabotaged the 3 centuries of Russia’s progress.

What a farcical depiction of the world. There is more to Russia than Putin's opposition to the west.

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9. trhway ◴[21 Nov 24 04:09 UTC] No.42201009{3}[source]▶
>There is more to Russia than Putin's opposition to the west.

definitely. That "more" is the backwater Grand Duchy of Moscow how it was before Peter The Great.

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11. PittleyDunkin ◴[21 Nov 24 04:40 UTC] No.42201191{4}[source]▶
As much as I'd like to blithely believe you actually agree with me, who gives a damn about muscovites, particularly from more than 400 years ago? and what bearing does this have on our conversation?
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12. trhway ◴[21 Nov 24 05:24 UTC] No.42201396{5}[source]▶
the 3 centuries of progress started by Peter The Great - importing European values, educated people and technology, science and education - made that Grand Duchy of Moscow into the, in various times in various aspects, great country of Russia (Russian Empire, USSR). Peter The Great "opened windows" into Europe and to Caucasus (for example in the military expedition of 1724 Peter The Great signed treaty with the Armenian dukes). Putin had been actively reversing that process - under him Russia rejected European values, kicked out or suppressed many educated people, and the Russian tech, science and education is going straight downhill. Putin "closed the European and Caucasus windows". Russia is quickly returning back to that state of the backwater Grand Duchy of Moscow.