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smilekzs ◴[20 Nov 24 17:24 UTC] No.42196192[source]▶

>>42194327 (OP) #

The SFBay I-880 and US-101 are always packed, often under construction, but still pothole-filled, with sections of extreme roughness. Compare this to our OR neighbors, where there are signs saying "your tax dollars at work" by ORDOT everywhere. I used to scoff at this as a display of insecurity, but apparently (from TFA at least), Oregonians' tax dollars _are_ at work.

CA takes so many tax dollars from my hands. Why aren't they "at work"?

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1. xvedejas ◴[20 Nov 24 17:34 UTC] No.42196287[source]▶

>>42196192 #

I'd like to see California consider reducing the total mileage of roads and focus on having a smaller amount of higher quality paved surfaces. My neighborhood street does not need to be 60ft wide, and our freeways do not need more lanes.

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2. s1artibartfast ◴[20 Nov 24 18:05 UTC] No.42196579[source]▶

>>42196287 (TP) #

Oregon manages about 40% the road miles of California with 10% the population and 70% of the tax revenue per capita.

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3. brewdad ◴[20 Nov 24 20:43 UTC] No.42197908[source]▶

>>42196287 (TP) #

Start with the fire department. They are the ones demanding 60 ft wide residential streets so that their trucks can turn around without having to drive a few blocks out of the way.

4. xvedejas ◴[20 Nov 24 23:35 UTC] No.42199292[source]▶

>>42196579 #

I imagine that all states would have more trouble managing more roads than they currently do, and less trouble managing fewer roads than they currently do.

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5. s1artibartfast ◴[20 Nov 24 23:42 UTC] No.42199347{3}[source]▶

>>42199292 #

I dont follow? Are you invoking some diseconomies of scale. California has about twice the roads but more than 5X the budget.

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6. xvedejas ◴[21 Nov 24 02:19 UTC] No.42200422{4}[source]▶

>>42199347 #

My prior post is choosing not to compare the two at all. In isolation, it is easier for California to handle fewer roads than it currently does.

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