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Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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577 points mooreds | 3 comments | 18 Nov 24 14:31 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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leshokunin ◴[18 Nov 24 20:06 UTC] No.42176328[source]▶
The constant Russian interference, combined with the regular escalation from the jets patrolling, and the radar jamming, really needs to be dealt with.

We're stuck between having to do timid actions and full NATO escalation. This feels like constant creep.

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JumpCrisscross ◴[18 Nov 24 21:00 UTC] No.42176978[source]▶
> We're stuck between having to do timid actions and full NATO escalation

If only there were someone applying pressure to Russia we could have fight for us!

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PKop ◴[18 Nov 24 21:12 UTC] No.42177095[source]▶
So sacrifice more Ukrainian men for the meat grinder? What has that accomplished so far?
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marssaxman ◴[18 Nov 24 21:21 UTC] No.42177189[source]▶
What business is that of ours? It's up to the Ukrainians what they are willing to do in defense of their country.
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PKop ◴[18 Nov 24 21:24 UTC] No.42177221[source]▶
>we could have fight for us

C'mon. Their funding is entirely US dependent. What business is that of ours? We are enabling it. How could you possibly ask the question "what business is that of ours"? Explain yourself, that question is absurd.

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1. nobody9999 ◴[19 Nov 24 03:03 UTC] No.42179733[source]▶
>C'mon. Their funding is entirely US dependent.

I believe you're misinformed about that.

   The majority of committed support by country has come from the United States,
   whose total aid commitment is valued at about $75 billion. The U.S. is 
   followed by Germany and the United Kingdom for highest commitments overall. 
   The European Union as a whole has committed approximately $93 billion in aid 
   to Ukraine.[0]
While the US is largest donor by country, the EU as a whole has contributed more than the US.[1] Which is unsurprising, given the circumstances.

So no. Ukraine funding is not entirely dependent on the US. Not even close.

[0] https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/these-co...

[1] https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-s...

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2. GordonS ◴[19 Nov 24 08:45 UTC] No.42181248[source]▶
Right... but the EU is acting as US' proxy; the EU only threw all that money at the Ukraine (destroying itself economically in the process!) because of US "influence".

Many EU countries are now little more than US vassals.

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3. aguaviva ◴[19 Nov 24 10:55 UTC] No.42182097[source]▶
Many EU countries are now little more than US vassals

They're nothing of the sort. Your perspective is seriously out of touch with reality.