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thepuppet33r ◴[] No.42175024[source]
Yes, Google deserves to be distrusted and avoided as a whole, but Google Scholar is a genuinely net good for humanity.
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dumpHero2 ◴[] No.42175704[source]
I have similar feeing for Gmail (it's effective anti spam engine), google maps and google docs (which pioneered shared docs. It feels outdated on many fronts now, but it was a pioneer).
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gray_-_wolf ◴[] No.42177404[source]
Most of the spam I get is from gmail. Maybe they should apply their so effective spam engine to outgoing mail as well...
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1. crazygringo ◴[] No.42177542[source]
It's probably not. You can put any domain you want on the "from" address. Just because it says it was from Gmail doesn't mean it actually was, unless it's signed with DKIM etc.

I had a domain for a while that people got spam "from" all the time. It had nothing to do with me and there was nothing I could do about it.

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2. dpifke ◴[] No.42177685[source]
I run mail servers for myself, a couple of side projects, and some friends and family. A double-digit percentage of all spam caught by my filters is from Google's mail servers, not just forged @gmail.com addresses.

Of the "too big to block outright" spam senders, behind Twilio Sendgrid and Weebly, Google is currently #3. Amazon is a close #4. None of the top four currently have useful abuse reporting mechanisms... Sendgrid used to be OK, but they no longer seem to take any action. Google doesn't even accept abuse reports, which is ironic because "does not accept or act upon abuse reports" is criteria for being blocked by Google.

Most spam from Google is fake invoices and 419 scams. This is trivially filtered on my end, which makes it perplexing Google doesn't choose to do so. I can guarantee that exactly 0% of Gmail users sending out renewal invoices for "N0rton Anti-Virus" are legitimate.

3. gray_-_wolf ◴[] No.42177697[source]
I would hope google has DKIM and SPF set.
4. csomar ◴[] No.42179265[source]
The Spam I get from "gmail" and ends up in my spam folder is spoofed. The Spam I get from gmail and ends up in my inbox is from gmail. Spammers will mass-create accounts and mass-sell them to spammers.