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toss1 ◴[] No.42172902[source]
Substantial Russian activity also near UK, raises concerns that Russia would cut off UK. [0]

Russian ships ‘plotting sabotage in the North Sea’ [1]

[0] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-undersea-...

[1] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ships...

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whythre ◴[] No.42173238[source]
Do these nations not have navies? Can’t they tell the Russian non-combat ships (or pressure them) to get lost?
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1. lxgr ◴[] No.42176821[source]
> Can’t they tell the Russian non-combat ships (or pressure them) to get lost?

Not in international waters, which is where submarine cables are largely located.

And even if they could: The oceans are... kind of big. If it were that easy to "just patrol" shipping lanes/submarine cable tracks etc., why would piracy still be a concern?

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3. willy_k ◴[] No.42179598[source]
Would relatively cheap AI-piloted satellite connected ships with sensor equipment work as a solution?
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4. lxgr ◴[] No.42179668[source]
I doubt it. It seems to be a similar problem to missile defense: When you have a lot of ground to cover and can only be in one place at a time, the defender will always be at a huge cost disadvantage compared to the attacker. That's only in one/two dimensions – add a third (submarines) and the cost imbalance shifts even more.

And even if it works, this will only give attackers pause that are deterred by attribution.

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5. XorNot ◴[] No.42180392{3}[source]
Basically if mass produced something makes defense "cheap" it likely makes offense even cheaper.