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tomcam ◴[] No.42168915[source]
Not sure why swatting isn’t treated like attempted murder
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drexlspivey ◴[] No.42169121[source]
Well he is facing 20 years
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saghm ◴[] No.42169148[source]
That's a pretty light sentence for 375 murder attempts and threats.
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1. pluc ◴[] No.42172597[source]
It's only attempted murder because American SWAT is trigger happy, equipped literally like an army and shoots before asking questions or establishing context, that's hardly his fault.
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2. lupusreal ◴[] No.42172630[source]
It's his fault if he knows his actions may result in the targets death and does it anyway.

"It's hardly my fault the police doused pluc with gasoline, all I did was throw a match"

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3. pluc ◴[] No.42172904[source]
If you have smart police officers who do smart police work this is a mild annoyance at best. Not trying to defend him, but SWAT is just as guilty as he is.
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4. gsck ◴[] No.42173431[source]
Equipped like an army, unfortunately not trained like one.
5. everforward ◴[] No.42174083[source]
I agree that he is complicit, but I find it hard to view him as solely culpable for a death. If a child feeds law enforcement false data, and law enforcement then kills someone, both parties should have known better but I have much higher expectations of our law enforcement than a teenager.

The kid needs to be punished, but that doesn’t change the fact that we have a glaring hole in our law enforcement procedures so large that even children can exploit them. That’s insane. Children are always going to do dumb shit, we need to have policies and procedures to guard against that.

6. saghm ◴[] No.42176293[source]
My response is in the context of the parent comment saying that it should be treated like attempted murder, and then the response citing the 20 years of sentence reading to me like it was implying that the crimes were being treated seriously enough. The premise you seem to disagree with was established by previous comments and isn't something I proposed myself.
7. lupusreal ◴[] No.42176684{3}[source]
AFAIK the swat teams involved in the OP incidents didn't kill anybody, so they more or less did their jobs properly. Nonetheless, the intent was there; this guy committed hundreds of attempted murders.