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amluto ◴[] No.42172284[source]
> Recently, her hospital’s dermatology program received more than 600 applications for four residency slots.

Perhaps if supply of dermatologists was not so strongly limited, prices and wait times would improve.

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wyldfire ◴[] No.42172320[source]
I doubt that limit is an artificial one. Hospitals don't need 600 dermatologists on staff. I think this is yet another factor of capitalism: selfish interests of individual corporations being in tension with the people's interests of having affordable healthcare. Other developed countries seem to have said "yeah, we recognize that nationalizing healthcare will result in insurance companies and hospitals making less money. But that's what has to happen for the people to be able to get the care they need."

Every time it comes up in the US, nationalized healthcare is demonized in some media. But it just feels like a facade perpetrated by the hospitals and insurance companies (and now private equity) who stand to lose the most. If it's good enough for veterans and retirees, why can't it be good enough for the rest of us? Maybe it's because when the government pays the bill, they don't just roll over and accept $EXORBITANT_FEE after $EXORBITANT_FEE - they negotiate and get some reasonable value.

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alistairSH ◴[] No.42172379[source]
There is absolutely an artificial cap on the number of residencies (across specialties, not unique to dermatology). The majority of residency slot are funded through Medicare - Congress has effectively placed an artificial cap on the number of spots.

From what I gather, Congress set the current low limit due to lobbying from the AMA something like 30 years ago. The AMA has since changed its tune and wants more slots to alleviate shortages in some regions and specialties, but the funding has not materialized.

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maxerickson ◴[] No.42172416[source]
A lack of government funds is not a cap!

What would they do if the government didn't fund any slots, just shrug and decide they didn't need doctors?

Note that I'm not opposed to the government funding lots more slots, I am objecting to the presumption that government funding is the only possible way to make a doctor.

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nradov ◴[] No.42172470[source]
If the government didn't fund any slots then graduate medical education programs would charge the residents themselves instead of paying them a salary. Then physicians would finish their education $1M in debt instead of $500K (or whatever) today. World that be an improvement?

There are a small number of residency slots funded by non-profit foundations but those are a drop in the bucket. None of the other major players in the national healthcare system have an incentive to pay for this stuff.

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1. indymike ◴[] No.42172537[source]
> World that be an improvement?

Unpopular opinion: if the student will be able to pay that loan off in 10-20 years and maintain a good standard of living while doing so, then it is probably fine.

> None of the other major players in the national healthcare system have an incentive to pay for this stuff.

I'm pretty sure the entire system's revenue model breaks without physicians, so there are plenty of businesses (hospitals, labs, practices, etc...) with an incentive to have more billing capacity.