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How Japanese black companies oppress workers (2014)

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178 points rawgabbit | 3 comments | 18 Nov 24 04:02 UTC | HN request time: 0.201s | source
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Culonavirus ◴[18 Nov 24 05:25 UTC] No.42169929[source]▶
Funny seeing a post about these as that's what I was recently reminded of when reading this post:

https://x.com/DOGE/status/1857076831104434289

("80+ hours per week" ... what kind of a psycho even writes this down and puts it out there as if it was normal in any way...)

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rukuu001 ◴[18 Nov 24 05:44 UTC] No.42170017[source]▶
Reads like a job ad for the worst startup in the world:

  super high-IQ

  +

  small-government revolutionaries

  +

  80+ hours per week

  + 

  on unglamorous cost-cutting

  (salary TDB)
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1. jmspring ◴[18 Nov 24 06:06 UTC] No.42170123[source]▶
Work hard, play hard, we are like a family — uttered by several YC companies at various recruiting events
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2. Culonavirus ◴[18 Nov 24 08:16 UTC] No.42170679[source]▶
Ah yes, the good old family/friends angle. And it's true... well, kind of. What they don't tell you is that what they expect from YOU is that you'll behave like TheBiz is your second family (loyalty, sacrifice, forgiveness...), but of course for TheBiz you'll still be just an easily replaceable cog in the machine... anything more would be WEIRD, right?

Off the charts levels cringe.

Just be professional and treat employment like any other business transaction. Why is it so hard for founders and HRs to not be full of shit and treat their employees with dignity and respect?

Like, come on, TheBiz and I are not family, we're not friends and we will never be anything of the sort. We have a somewhat common goal (of making money), but that's about it. It's a giant red flag to (pretend to) expect anything more.

3. JackFr ◴[18 Nov 24 10:09 UTC] No.42171151[source]▶
To my ears, there is nothing more cringe than “work hard, play hard”