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The withering dream of a cheap American electric car

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152 points voisin | 8 comments | 17 Nov 24 23:52 UTC | HN request time: 1.738s | source | bottom
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worik ◴[18 Nov 24 00:36 UTC] No.42168640[source]▶
> “I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,” Musk said a few weeks ago. “It would be silly.”

ROTFLMAO!

Says the richest person in existence. What an entitled nasty person.

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1. 015a ◴[18 Nov 24 00:53 UTC] No.42168718[source]▶
While he did say that, its worth pointing out that Tesla also said that more affordable options will be available in 2025H1 [1]. Given Musk's statement, what I think Tesla means by this is more affordable trims of existing models.

I don't think its reasonable to read Musk's statement as "the Model 2 isn't happening". Its more accurate to read it as "it might cost more than $25,000".

[1] https://fortune.com/2024/10/24/tesla-model-2-affordable-car-...

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2. ceejayoz ◴[18 Nov 24 14:55 UTC] No.42172838[source]▶
> its worth pointing out that Tesla also said that more affordable options will be available in 2025H1

Sure, but they've been saying full self driving is "next year" for a decade in a row. I take that with a large grain of salt. https://jalopnik.com/elon-musk-promises-full-self-driving-ne...

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3. 015a ◴[18 Nov 24 15:28 UTC] No.42173232[source]▶
Absolutely; but it is at least indicative of the direction Tesla is taking. It might be the end of 2025, 2026, whenever; but they've said they're working on lower cost models. That's all I'm asserting.
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4. ceejayoz ◴[18 Nov 24 15:57 UTC] No.42173590{3}[source]▶
It's still the company that trots out humans in spandex to simulate robots and a self-driving taxi that was actually remotely operated by a guy on his phone.

I'll believe in the cheap Tesla when it arrives.

5. drawkward ◴[18 Nov 24 16:14 UTC] No.42173794{3}[source]▶
Why anyone would take Elon at his word is beyond me.
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6. 015a ◴[18 Nov 24 20:15 UTC] No.42176422{4}[source]▶
Elon did not say that. Tesla The Company said that.

Ask yourself this: I bet you a thousand dollars that Tesla will release either a lower cost model or a lower cost trim of an existing model before the end of 2026. Would you take the other side of that bet?

That's directionality. Deadlines might get missed. I'm talking about directionality.

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7. drawkward ◴[18 Nov 24 20:34 UTC] No.42176650{5}[source]▶
You are now changing your claim; you originally said or quoted lower cost models.

Yes, I'd take that bet.

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8. drawkward ◴[19 Nov 24 16:05 UTC] No.42184970{7}[source]▶
They certainly enjoy the fact that I don't make unsubstantiated and unwarranted ad hominem attacks!