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Humans have caused 1.5 °C of long-term global warming according to new estimates

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399 points gmays | 2 comments | 17 Nov 24 18:49 UTC | HN request time: 0.405s | source
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root_axis ◴[17 Nov 24 19:28 UTC] No.42166375[source]▶
Doesn't seem like there is any foreseeable future where climate change can be addressed. It's not just the leadership of the u.s, but the citizens themselves reject climate change as a real issue. Hopefully I'm just being pessemsitic.
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baq ◴[17 Nov 24 19:35 UTC] No.42166433[source]▶
Oh a lot of those citizens care - it’s that they travel to Japan for vacation anyway.
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autoexec ◴[17 Nov 24 20:27 UTC] No.42166908[source]▶
Let's not pretend that the family vacation is the real driver to climate change. Most Americans aren't jet-setting on a regular basis.
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moffkalast ◴[17 Nov 24 21:38 UTC] No.42167545[source]▶
Air travel is only 11% of all transport emissions, so it's not all that significant, especially given that it's often the only real option for covering vast distances.

But Americans do drive everywhere, and that's 48% of all transport emissions (just cars, not even counting trucks, with that it's more like 73% for all road transport). So yeah. Nobody gives a fuck.

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reducesuffering ◴[17 Nov 24 23:14 UTC] No.42168211[source]▶
X is only Y% of emissions is the NIMBY of climate change. You can slice every single emissions source as "only Y% of emissions, you should worry about the others first", and then nothing is done on any of them. No, you tackle everything above 0.5%. Otherwise, the SUV's say blame the private jets, the private jets say blame the SUV's, the public transport blames the EV's, America blames China, China blames America's past, the consumers blame the producers and the producers blame the consumers, etc.
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1. autoexec ◴[17 Nov 24 23:37 UTC] No.42168335[source]▶
There's a long history of putting the blame for climate change on the everyday actions of individuals so that industry can avoid scrutiny. They'd love it if we devoted our time and effort to policing our neighbors for what car they drive or how often they go to the store or a doctor instead of focusing on the few sources that cause 80% (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/since-2016-80-perc...) of global CO2 emissions or at the harms being caused by the Ag and food industry.

It's very appropriate to pull out "X is only Y% of emissions" when there are vastly larger targets we should be concerning ourselves with. Admitting where the problem actually lies doesn't absolve individuals of all responsibly or prevent individuals from making smarter choices. Very few people need a truck or SUV and we'd all be better off with fewer of them on the road, but it's that's the last thing we should be worried about when it comes to meaningfully addressing climate change.

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2. lukan ◴[18 Nov 24 06:07 UTC] No.42170136[source]▶
"80 Percent of Global CO2 Emissions Come From Just 57 Companies"

Oh, so we just have to take down those evil corporations and then everything will be solved?

That is how it sounds like. Easy solution. Except - who will then produce and deliver the cheap food and products for the poor unresponsible individuals to consume?