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    Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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    492 points storf45 | 13 comments | 16 Nov 24 03:42 UTC | HN request time: 0.536s | source | bottom
    1. Thaxll ◴[16 Nov 24 20:42 UTC] No.42159134[source]▶
    In 2012 Youtube did the Red Bull stratos live stream with 8m concurrent users. We're 12 years later, Netflix fucked up.
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    2. MichaelZuo ◴[16 Nov 24 21:13 UTC] No.42159396[source]▶
    The average quality of talent has gone way down compared to 2012 though.

    E.g. the median engineer, excluding entry level/interns, at YouTube in 2012 was a literal genius at their niche or quite close to it.

    Netflix simply can’t hire literal geniuses with mid six figure compensation packages in 2024 dollars anymore… though that may change with a more severe contraction.

    3. spaceywilly ◴[16 Nov 24 21:22 UTC] No.42159473[source]▶
    To me the difference is that in 2012, you had companies focusing on delivering a quality product, whether it made money or not. Today, the economic environment has shifted a lot and companies are trying to increase profits while cutting costs. The result is inevitably a decline in quality. I'm sure that Netflix could deliver a flawless live stream to millions of viewers, but the question is can they do it while making a profit that Wall Street is happy with. Apparently not.
    4. Mistletoe ◴[16 Nov 24 22:10 UTC] No.42159809[source]▶
    The funny thing is I was just reading something on HN like three days ago about how light years ahead Netflix tech was compared to other streaming providers. This is the first thing I thought of when I saw the reports that the fight was messing up.
    5. lxgr ◴[16 Nov 24 22:18 UTC] No.42159869[source]▶
    But is there a way that Netflix might have learned from all of Youtube's past mistakes?

    The only reasonable way to scale something like this up is probably to... scale it up.

    Sure, there are probably some generic lessons, but I bet that the pain points in Netflix's architecture (historically grown over more than a decade and optimized towards highly cacheable content) are very different from Youtube, which has ramped up live content gradually over as many years.

    6. SoftTalker ◴[16 Nov 24 23:24 UTC] No.42160463[source]▶
    2012 live video was what, 480p?
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    7. jeffgreco ◴[17 Nov 24 00:37 UTC] No.42160916[source]▶
    That’s about what Paul Tyson was looking like at times.
    8. reaperducer ◴[17 Nov 24 01:07 UTC] No.42161083[source]▶
    In 2012 Youtube did the Red Bull stratos live stream with 8m concurrent users

    8m vs 60m. And not in 4K. Not a great choice for comparison.

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    9. heraldgeezer ◴[17 Nov 24 01:33 UTC] No.42161228[source]▶
    No? In 2012 most already had fiber net here. Are you young or poor?
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    10. crysin ◴[17 Nov 24 02:16 UTC] No.42161442{3}[source]▶
    At least in the US "most" most definitely did not have fiber, at best maybe FTTC.
    11. MuffinFlavored ◴[18 Nov 24 14:55 UTC] No.42172834[source]▶
    Source for Netflix pulling 60m streams to watch Tyson/Paul?
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    12. slices ◴[18 Nov 24 15:56 UTC] No.42173572{3}[source]▶
    living in a major US city in 2012, we had ancient DSL
    13. nosequel ◴[18 Nov 24 18:07 UTC] No.42175083{3}[source]▶
    https://about.netflix.com/en/news/60-million-households-tune...