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    ndiddy ◴[] No.42158554[source]
    Another similar incident happened around a week after that one: https://www.channel3000.com/news/dane-county-sheriffs-office... .

    One thing to note is that the car doors in Teslas are electrically controlled and a different failsafe method of opening the doors is required when the electrical system isn't working. Here's the steps for manually opening the Model Y's rear doors (car in the story the post links to): https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-AAD769C... and here's the steps for manually opening the Model S's rear doors (car in the story I linked to): https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/models/en_us/GUID-AAD769C... . Note that this involves removing the rear carpet in the Model S and the door pocket mat in the Model Y, and that the Model Y instructions note that some cars aren't even equipped with manual rear door releases. It seems like Tesla didn't account at all for what happens if passengers who aren't familiar with the car need to quickly exit in an emergency, especially if the driver's incapacitated and can't give them directions.

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    nemomarx ◴[] No.42158647[source]
    why are the doors electronically controlled to start with? is it cost savings?
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    1. cyberax ◴[] No.42158689[source]
    They use frameless windows, so the electronic release slightly lowers them to avoid them scraping the door frame.
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    2. PittleyDunkin ◴[] No.42158761[source]
    Why do they want frameless windows?
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    3. dagmx ◴[] No.42158772[source]
    Frameless windows are aesthetically pleasing to many people. Tesla aren’t alone in that preference, they are just one of the few brands that use frameless by default even on the lowest end vehicles they sell, so there’s a higher number out there.
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    4. throwuxiytayq ◴[] No.42158778[source]
    Why do they want glued-on RAM and SSDs?
    5. OptionOfT ◴[] No.42158801[source]
    In 2008 I had a BMW Convertible with frameless doors. When you pulled the door handle the window dropped. Same from the inside.
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    6. onetokeoverthe ◴[] No.42158957{3}[source]
    at the funeral...

    "at least they had pleasing windows."

    7. neuralRiot ◴[] No.42159109[source]
    Every car with frameless windows does this without the need for a death-trap electric door release, i work in McLarens and the windows will drop if the battery gets low so you can open the vertical doors with a dead battery.
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    9. lttlrck ◴[] No.42159335[source]
    Dropping the windows on frameless doors goes back to at least the 90s and mechanical door handles.

    I wouldn't be surprised if it goes back even earlier and someone even tried it entirely mechanically without electric windows...

    Update: it looks like it was first done on 1946 Buick convertibles.

    10. yibg ◴[] No.42159386[source]
    There were plenty of older frameless doors where the door itself opens mechanically and the window lowers slightly. A lot of the older subarus for example.

    What's special about Tesla (or any of the other newer cars with full electrical door opening mechanisms) that makes this not an option?

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    11. cyberax ◴[] No.42159458[source]
    > What's special about Tesla (or any of the other newer cars with full electrical door opening mechanisms) that makes this not an option?

    Cost-cutting, mostly.

    12. Citizen_Lame ◴[] No.42163497[source]
    It's impossible cannot be done. They tried nothing and were out of ideas.