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First Impressions: Lenovo T14s with Qualcomm Snapdragon ARM64 CPU

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213 points cnst | 3 comments | 15 Nov 24 20:57 UTC | HN request time: 0.436s | source
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galkk ◴[15 Nov 24 21:33 UTC] No.42151363[source]▶
I love it(in context of FreeBSD):

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What does not work: Keyboard, mouse, TB & USB-C ports, thermal/freq mgt.

Conclusion: Highly recommended

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cnst ◴[15 Nov 24 22:12 UTC] No.42151800[source]▶
That was a bit ironic, indeed, but at least the USB-A works!

For what it's worth, the majority of mechanical RGB keyboards and mice are USB-A anyways, so, if you're fine with a very powerful machine that wouldn't have an internal keyboard support for a few weeks, sounds like a good advice anyways!

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smolder ◴[16 Nov 24 11:49 UTC] No.42155930[source]▶
I'm unsure what RGB or a keyboard being mechanical has to do with it being USB-A, or what the relevance is, but yes, there are many USB-A peripherals available.
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1. cnst ◴[16 Nov 24 18:19 UTC] No.42158001[source]▶
> The only thing my post was addressing is that you called out RGB mechanical keyboards specifically when there are also plenty of non-RGB and non-mechanical options. It was bizarre, like this reply.

The point was that even the more "premium" products are still USB-A, not USB-C.

USB-A simply isn't going anywhere.

Personally, I find USB-A more useful than HDMI, since HDMI is kind of inferior to USB-C in every possible way. I've tried using a 43" UHD TV as a monitor, since they're as cheap as $149.99 USD brand new, but it had noticeable delay even at 4k@60Hz, and just didn't feel right. The UHD resolution at 43" itself would actually be perfect, since 1080p at 20.5in used to be my fav a few years ago (before QHD at 23" started reaching the sub-$200 range), but, alas, the specs of a proper monitor (brightness, matte, USB-C with PD and a hub) are just better suited for a display compared to a TV, even if the resolution itself may seem ideal.

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2. smolder ◴[16 Nov 24 22:39 UTC] No.42160039[source]▶
> The point was that even the more "premium" products are still USB-A, not USB-C.

Often they're both, with detachable cables. Again, it was just weird that you brought up RGB specifically, something not at all central to your original point, a gimmick marketed at 'gamers' which is pointless in a well lit room; as well as mechanical keyboards specifically; as well that you've carried on like this in reply. Please don't take the time to reply again.

3. jasomill ◴[16 Nov 24 23:38 UTC] No.42160561[source]▶
I've tried using a 43" UHD TV as a monitor, since they're as cheap as $149.99 USD brand new, but it had noticeable delay even at 4k@60Hz, and just didn't feel right.

This is typically due to default settings on TVs enabling various high-latency post-processing options.

Most TVs have "game mode" settings that disable all these at once, at which point latency is comparable to monitors.

Case in point: at both 60 Hz and 120 Hz*, 4K latency on my LG C4 is within a millisecond of the lowest-latency monitors listed here:

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/inputs/input-lag

I fully agree that HDMI is inferior to USB-C, if only because quality USB-C-to-HDMI adapters are widely available, and mini/micro HDMI connectors commonly used on small devices (not including this laptop) are garbage.

* Probably also true at 144 Hz, but the linked table doesn't have a dedicated column for 144 Hz, complicating comparisons.