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bpfrh ◴[] No.42155291[source]
imho the biggest problem with all the new snapdragon laptops is that all ram is soldered on, because the new chips don't support slotted ram.
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deng ◴[] No.42155342[source]
I find this to be less and less of an issue, because RAM has gotten so cheap that you can pretty much just max it out when buying. At the moment, going from 32GB to 64GB incurs a 193$ markup for this laptop, which I think is entirely reasonable for a machine like this (although, honestly, I'm usually not even close to reach 32GB in my normal work).

The only notable exception here is Apple with their absolutely bonkers RAM upgrade prices, which is why I would never buy a Macbook.

EDIT: I just HAD to look, MacBook Pro(ha!) by default with 16GB unified memory, it will set you back 400$ to go to 32GB, so more than 4x what Lenovo takes (64GB not even possible, of course).

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mavamaarten ◴[] No.42155404[source]
You say ram has gotten cheap, and then $193 for 32GB is fine with you? You can easily get 64GB for that price when buying separate modules.

I still think it would be beneficial for us to keep memory swappable at all costs. And if the connector is the problem, they should address that, rather than just accepting these tactics that _enable_ manufacturers in setting their own prices. I'm not saying they all do this, but there's plenty of them and Apple is the perfect example like you say.

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1. deng ◴[] No.42155455[source]
We wanted longer battery life, so they run RAM at lower voltages now, which makes it necessary to minimize paths as much as possible. It's not some conspiracy. And they are working on a connector, see the LPCAMM2 link in the other post, so maybe you can wait it out if you feel that strongly.