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First Impressions: Lenovo T14s with Qualcomm Snapdragon ARM64 CPU

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213 points cnst | 3 comments | 15 Nov 24 20:57 UTC | HN request time: 0.01s | source
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bpfrh ◴[16 Nov 24 08:38 UTC] No.42155291[source]▶
imho the biggest problem with all the new snapdragon laptops is that all ram is soldered on, because the new chips don't support slotted ram.
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deng ◴[16 Nov 24 08:51 UTC] No.42155342[source]▶
I find this to be less and less of an issue, because RAM has gotten so cheap that you can pretty much just max it out when buying. At the moment, going from 32GB to 64GB incurs a 193$ markup for this laptop, which I think is entirely reasonable for a machine like this (although, honestly, I'm usually not even close to reach 32GB in my normal work).

The only notable exception here is Apple with their absolutely bonkers RAM upgrade prices, which is why I would never buy a Macbook.

EDIT: I just HAD to look, MacBook Pro(ha!) by default with 16GB unified memory, it will set you back 400$ to go to 32GB, so more than 4x what Lenovo takes (64GB not even possible, of course).

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1. mavamaarten ◴[16 Nov 24 09:08 UTC] No.42155404[source]▶
You say ram has gotten cheap, and then $193 for 32GB is fine with you? You can easily get 64GB for that price when buying separate modules.

I still think it would be beneficial for us to keep memory swappable at all costs. And if the connector is the problem, they should address that, rather than just accepting these tactics that _enable_ manufacturers in setting their own prices. I'm not saying they all do this, but there's plenty of them and Apple is the perfect example like you say.

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2. deng ◴[16 Nov 24 09:22 UTC] No.42155455[source]▶
We wanted longer battery life, so they run RAM at lower voltages now, which makes it necessary to minimize paths as much as possible. It's not some conspiracy. And they are working on a connector, see the LPCAMM2 link in the other post, so maybe you can wait it out if you feel that strongly.
3. cnst ◴[16 Nov 24 21:14 UTC] No.42159402[source]▶
The $193.00 for an extra 32GB of LPDDR5X is simply an example of Lenovo's CTO website showing the pre-discount MSRP prices for all the upgrades, even though they run near-permanent discounts of 40% and more compared to their official MSRP for many products.

As pointed out in the other comment, the true price at Lenovo for this upgrade is only $112.80 — not as good as you'd get with the DDR5 SODIMM, but it's actually cheaper than what Crucial supposedly charges for their 32GB of LPCAMM2, which isn't even as fast as what Lenovo includes.

https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr5/ct32g75c2lp5xg — $174.99 for Crucial 32GB LPCAMM2 LPDDR5X-7500 — compare to a net $112.80 difference at Lenovo for an extra 32 GB LPDDR5X-8448MHz (Soldered).