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First Impressions: Lenovo T14s with Qualcomm Snapdragon ARM64 CPU

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213 points cnst | 8 comments | 15 Nov 24 20:57 UTC | HN request time: 1.465s | source | bottom
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galkk ◴[15 Nov 24 21:33 UTC] No.42151363[source]▶
I love it(in context of FreeBSD):

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What does not work: Keyboard, mouse, TB & USB-C ports, thermal/freq mgt.

Conclusion: Highly recommended

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1. doubled112 ◴[16 Nov 24 01:40 UTC] No.42153400[source]▶
Sounds like some of the Linux phones. This is our flagship device. It doesn't have a working camera or radios, but who needs those?
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2. yonatan8070 ◴[16 Nov 24 08:19 UTC] No.42155232[source]▶
Every time I hear about mobile Linux releases I get excited just for the chance to get away from Android and iOS, then I get disappointed to find that the list of things that don't work includes like half the phone
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3. grishka ◴[16 Nov 24 13:45 UTC] No.42156375[source]▶
I have a feeling that the Linux developer community in general just constantly prioritizes the wrong things. They love to boast about technical achievements instead of doing something that would actually enable real-world regular-usage scenarios. Not helped by the fact that stable ABIs are basically nonexistent, especially for kernel modules.

Is it even possible to use Linux on desktop without ever having to edit config files or run commands in the terminal?

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4. m4rtink ◴[16 Nov 24 13:53 UTC] No.42156427[source]▶
I have been using Sailfish OS for more than 10 years daily, withou issues. And many OS releases for the PinePhone work quite fine as well. :)
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5. nextos ◴[16 Nov 24 18:26 UTC] No.42158077[source]▶
SFOS is sadly not well known in the US as its not sold there, which has definitely hurt popularity. Lack of VoLTE support for quite a long time didn't help either. Still, it's a great option I recommend to anyone who wants to escape from the current duopoly.
6. yonatan8070 ◴[16 Nov 24 20:40 UTC] No.42159126{3}[source]▶
> They love to boast about technical achievements instead of doing something that would actually enable real-world regular-usage scenarios.

For mobile Linux in particular, I found that it's quite the opposite, I see projects like Phosh and KDE Plasma Mobile constantly showing UI and UX improvemnts (albeit at a slower pace than desktop projects), while basic hardware support is non-functional.

Of course I'm not expecting every UX/UI dev to abandon their project to jump into low-level kernel development and bring support for more devices, but it feels like the desktop environments are developing for a device that doesn't exist.

> Is it even possible to use Linux on desktop without ever having to edit config files or run commands in the terminal?

On a modern Linux distro (that isn't one of the "advanced" ones), the answer is yes. If you install something like Mint or Ubuntu, you have a graphical app store and driver manager (which AFAIK you only need for NVIDIA GPUs).

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7. jamaicahest ◴[17 Nov 24 05:33 UTC] No.42162208{4}[source]▶
> (which AFAIK you only need for NVIDIA GPUs).

Which is what a lot of users have.

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8. yonatan8070 ◴[17 Nov 24 07:08 UTC] No.42162484{5}[source]▶
Yes, and in the driver manager you can install the relevant drivers with a few clicks