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461 points GavinAnderegg | 7 comments | 15 Nov 24 19:56 UTC | HN request time: 1.448s | source | bottom
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ta8645 ◴[15 Nov 24 20:21 UTC] No.42150508[source]▶
I'm still hoping that X wins. I'm hoping that we learn how to coexist with a diversity of viewpoints. It seems counterproductive to partition everyone up into their own little gardens, without any viable opposition to the dominant views.
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redeux ◴[15 Nov 24 20:43 UTC] No.42150784[source]▶
People aren't leaving X because of polite disagreement. They're leaving because ideological extremism and hate not only run wild but are actively promoted by the platform.

Here’s how I see it: imagine you like going to a restaurant for dinner fairly often. Recently, a group of rowdy patrons has started coming in, getting drunk, and making all kinds of noise. Strangely, the restaurant seems to encourage their behavior. You don’t love this—you’re just trying to enjoy a nice dinner and some casual conversation. So, you leave and don’t come back.

You can’t force the restaurant to calm down or kick out the rowdy patrons. They should be allowed to serve whomever they want. Luckily, you’re also not forced to endure their actions.

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1. numbers_guy ◴[15 Nov 24 20:56 UTC] No.42150929[source]▶
It's very hard to moderate an online forum that allows political content without succumbing to your own political bias. I don't like the trolls on X, but if X started moderating against hateful content, it would just end up censoring news and opinions like they used to do beforehand. There is just no way around that. I am not going to name examples because it would start a flame war, but there are enough recent examples.

Also, maybe I'm from a different generation, but the trolls can be very easily ignored. What do I care is some no name account is posting some stupid content somewhere on X? I already know which people I want to follow. The rest I don't care about.

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2. pseudalopex ◴[15 Nov 24 23:43 UTC] No.42152610[source]▶
> I don't like the trolls on X, but if X started moderating against hateful content, it would just end up censoring news and opinions like they used to do beforehand.

They censored cisgender as a slur.[1] They are not avoiding moderation to avoid bias.

> Also, maybe I'm from a different generation, but the trolls can be very easily ignored. What do I care is some no name account is posting some stupid content somewhere on X? I already know which people I want to follow. The rest I don't care about.

Signal to noise ratio is not a generational issue. Muted users and phrases not being muted is a common complaint. Less signal and more noise after the changes favoring paid accounts is a common complaint. And finding new accounts to follow was part of Twitter's value to others even if not you.

[1] https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/14/on-elons-whim-x-now-treats...

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3. verdverm ◴[16 Nov 24 03:35 UTC] No.42153925{3}[source]▶
> When some activist movement makes up a new word

cisgender is not a new word and predates the current culture wars

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/cisgender-meaning

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4. blackeyeblitzar ◴[16 Nov 24 03:54 UTC] No.42154007{4}[source]▶
It was made up in 1994 and is therefore a new word, especially relative to the words it is trying to forcibly replace. And its popular usage was a part of the “current culture wars”.
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5. verdverm ◴[16 Nov 24 04:12 UTC] No.42154102{5}[source]▶
When do words stop being new?

It's older than Google, the iPod, and Tamagotchi. It has been in use longer than patents are enforceable

6. johnnyanmac ◴[16 Nov 24 04:15 UTC] No.42154132[source]▶
>maybe I'm from a different generation, but the trolls can be very easily ignored.

if you're a no name user who barely comments, sure. Trolls have evolved beyond mean words in the last 20 years, though. They are NOT easily ignored anymore, and it only takes one doxxer to ruin your entire online presense. Or even physical.

7. johnnyanmac ◴[16 Nov 24 04:21 UTC] No.42154172{5}[source]▶
>especially relative to the words it is trying to forcibly replace

what is it trying to replace? Straight/Heterosexual? That doesn't work for trans folk (at least not while there's still heated discussion on whether to respect their chosen gender).

And as flattering as it is. I'm '94 and I don't consider myself "new".

> And its popular usage was a part of the “current culture wars”.

Just like feminimism and masculism? or "social justice"? or Misogyny? or "Free Speech"?

Yeah, language works like that. You use what (sometimes) best communicates your thoughts