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ta8645 ◴[] No.42150508[source]
I'm still hoping that X wins. I'm hoping that we learn how to coexist with a diversity of viewpoints. It seems counterproductive to partition everyone up into their own little gardens, without any viable opposition to the dominant views.
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taylodl ◴[] No.42150574[source]
There's a reason waste management becomes so important when building cities and large communities.
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1. ta8645 ◴[] No.42150680[source]
There's also a reason we don't create zoning laws based on political belief, forcing everyone to agree with us if they want to be our neighbor.
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2. taylodl ◴[] No.42151347[source]
What nobody has figured out how to do yet is re-create that physical reality in the digital world. Policing is a reality few people want to talk about, and nobody wants to point out that graffiti (trolling in the digital world) is vandalism and not free speech. Nor do they want to face the reality that while graffiti is pretty easy to spot in the real world, it's much more difficult to detect in the digital world. All those problems are in play before we add in the problems brought by advertising and the fact that online communities legally look similar to media.

Online communities have existed for over four decades now and we still haven't solved these problems.

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3. ta8645 ◴[] No.42151619[source]
> Online communities have existed for over four decades now and we still haven't solved these problems.

The beautiful thing about digital graffiti is that you can remove it instantly, and return to an unmarred environment. As long as such tools are provided to each person, those who enjoy graffiti can leave it in place too. Win-Win.

We do need a new vision, with people embracing and promoting digital maturity. Both in a reduction of trolling, and in a stronger resilience against it. Because not everything that is objectionable, is graffiti. You should not hate your neighbor because he has a different political sign on his front yard during election season. We have to stop equating everything that is objectionable, as a catastrophic, intolerable insult.

4. johnnyanmac ◴[] No.42154244[source]
>we don't create zoning laws based on political belief,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentrification

I think at this point you may need to review your history. There's sadly only so much I can do as a handle on a social media platform to convince someone this unaware of the powers that be.