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OpenAI, Google and Anthropic are struggling to build more advanced AI

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625 points lukebennett | 3 comments | 13 Nov 24 13:28 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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nerdypirate ◴[14 Nov 24 18:01 UTC] No.42139075[source]▶
"We will have better and better models," wrote OpenAI CEO Sam Altman in a recent Reddit AMA. "But I think the thing that will feel like the next giant breakthrough will be agents."

Is this certain? Are Agents the right direction to AGI?

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xanderlewis ◴[14 Nov 24 18:06 UTC] No.42139151[source]▶
If by agents you mean systems comprised of individual (perhaps LLM-powered) agents interacting with each other, probably not. I get the vague impression that so far researchers haven’t found any advantage to such systems — anything you can do with a group of AI agents can be emulated with a single one. It’s like chaining up perceptrons hoping to get more expressive power for free.
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j_maffe ◴[14 Nov 24 18:19 UTC] No.42139320[source]▶
> I get the vague impression that so far researchers haven’t found any advantage to such systems — anything you can do with a group of AI agents can be emulated with a single one. It’s like chaining up perceptrons hoping to get more expressive power for free. Emergence happens when many elements interact in a system. Brains are literally a bunch of neurons in a complex network. Also research is already showing promising results of the performance of agent systems.
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1. tartoran ◴[14 Nov 24 18:30 UTC] No.42139456{3}[source]▶
That's wishful thinking at best. Throw it all in a bucket and it will get infected with being and life.
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2. handfuloflight ◴[14 Nov 24 21:02 UTC] No.42141177[source]▶
Don't see where your parent comment said or implied that the point was for being and life to emerge.
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3. hatefulmoron ◴[15 Nov 24 11:30 UTC] No.42145965[source]▶
I think their point is that having complex interactions between simple things doesn't necessarily result in any great emergent behavior. You can't just throw gloopy masses of cells into a bucket, shake it about, and get a cat.