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xnx ◴[] No.42138885[source]
Seems like the logical endpoint of a lot of this is people getting paid directly for their attention. Want to call me? I've set a price of $5/call that I answer, and an additional $10/minute of listen time after the first 10 seconds. Want to send me an email? $1/email and $5/100 words. Anyone I have emailed is automatically on my allow-list, which I can also adjust manually.
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1. tokioyoyo ◴[] No.42139164[source]
And maybe like a temporary hold of the money, so you get it back if I’m convinced it’s not spam. Probably would resolve 99% of spam issues in the real world and create a chain of trust. Add some temporary disabling feature as well if you’re expecting a call from a random number too, so you’re set.
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2. swores ◴[] No.42139712[source]
Sounds like a great solution to the minority of people like you and me who wouldn't mind the added steps of approving every real phone call as not spam after, having to remember how to set that you're expecting a call from a random number, etc. I can't see it being acceptable to enough people for any network to go down this road unless spam levels get way worse.
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3. toss1 ◴[] No.42141172[source]
Spam is already at the level of changing people's default behavior from answering calls that come in to (as I saw described abt younger mobile users) "would rather pick up a live hand grenade than an unknown caller"

Personally, my default was to pick up and is now if recognized contact pickup, if not and I'm expecting an unknown call, scrutinize, then if pickup, only answer with a cough or two — never "hello" or "yes" due to threat of voice cloning escalate to banks.

Spam is universally detested

My assessment is that voice calls are on the verge of going obsolete if the telcos fail to get a handle on spam. Yet the telcos behave as if they have no clue whatsoever and DGAF.

4. plagiarist ◴[] No.42142083[source]
Reporting spam should be the other way around, it defaults to assuming a normal interaction.

Consider: if you get harassed with a call or text you don't like, you send an SMS with that phone number to some known short code. You then receive $1 from the caller. If the caller cannot be found, the last verifiable link in the chain is responsible for paying the fine.

This would cause carriers to behave overnight, instead of allowing foreign call centers to spoof other people's real private numbers with your area code.

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5. kyleee ◴[] No.42142784{3}[source]
At least we can dream, ehh?
6. tokioyoyo ◴[] No.42143917[source]
Not approving all the time, just setting every call by default to $1. Everyone who knows you will call knowing they’ll get their money back. And you can do an easy “add everyone in your contacts to a whitelist”, boom done.
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7. swores ◴[] No.42145433{3}[source]
That sounds a lot better to me
8. another-dave ◴[] No.42146029{3}[source]
It'd work well for both ends of the spectrum (spam callers & friends) but think would kinda fall down in the middle though — kids' school, doctor's office, plumber coming to service your boiler.

Where you are expecting a call and it's definitely not spam, but they're not going to be ringing from a pre-approved whitelist. Don't think they'd want to be putting $1 per call on the line and hoping for people to remember to click the right button afterwards

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9. red-iron-pine ◴[] No.42149552{3}[source]
couldnt they just automate ways to handle the code?

plus a lot of spam comes out of compromised phones, or compromised systems. what good is this if i have your phone, or just your SIM?

10. BlueTemplar ◴[] No.42157613{4}[source]
The plumber at least is presumably paid a lot more than $1 for doing that job, and they would most likely just pass the cost onto you ?